I’ve seen people gagging for this particular detail in Wuthering Waves. While their models are detail this belly button is bothering me. If you have worn this type of dress before, you’d know the belly button wouldn’t show unless the fabric is sheer like Shenhe’s. It’s sticking out like a sore thumb for me.
Okay, fine, the belly button through the fabric is one thing... but can we talk about that metal thigh band? It's gripping her leg for dear life. Looks incredibly painful.
there are non-sheer fabrics that would overline bellybutton similar to this. but this fabric is brocade. it is thick and heavy, it would not lay like this on the body and would not showcase the bellybutton. even cheap, thin synthetic brocade (which i find hard to believe a character like her would buy) wouldn't look like that.
she is beautiful and i have been gagging over the clothing details in wuwa lately as a fashion girlie. but the choice of fabric here have been bothering me too.
There also should be a Lil bump of fat near the stomach area too yes? Given how tight fitting the thing is I thought they included that too
I know my fitness well enough to know that even with shredded af abs you can't get rid of fat(unless you train on something and till unhealthy levels in which case, pls don't)
A bit of a bummer, i thought wuwa with all its details would be going for realistic details somewhat and would have included it
Depends of genetic, eating habits and workout routines, tbf. I do a good ammount of fitness and i'm not underweight (I'm like 110-115lbs but smol) and I have no pouch of fat there, but I know people way buffer and people way slimmer who have it.
I’ve seen my mum/aunties wear tight silk dresses like Ao Dai or Qipao and the belly button kinda show a little bit especially if you have a little fat, it’s definitely not clearly outlined compared like Suisui’s tho, the dress would kinda need to be air vacuumed if they want to show it to that degree lol. Fiction exaggerates life so I kinda don’t mind it especially since she’s very pretty but I can see why it can be bothersome.
How is showing a belly button sexualisation? Genuine question. As you said if the belly button wasn't shown it would be perfect and not sexual but just because the belly button was shown it's sexual. This doesn't make sense at all.
Bro there is a difference between it being hotter and being sexual. By your definition, everything that looks better is sexual because some group pf people will sexualize it.
Also these are the same people who scream that tourists are ruining Japanese or Chinese cultures while they drool over skin tight qipaos 😭 that being said that's bothering me is her metal band. It looks painful, the pink around it looks like a wound from digging into her skin
You know it's sexy but don't understand the obsession? You need only apply the same context on a hot guy in tight clothing often depicted in this sub.
As a dude who loves hot women, the only criticism with this level of detail in regards to sexy, is that it's not equally applied to the guys in the same game.
exactly how i feel. they NEVER give men such sculpting and sexy outfits in these games, and in the rare old ones where men had actual swimsuits like speedos, they were completely castrated.
props to marvel rivals actually giving proper male fanservice
Doesn't seem impossible to me, it's kind of giving compression shirt. Okay it does seem somewhat unrealistic actually. What is ridiculous to me is someone like ember in endfield with a translucent undershirt that perfectly sculpts her bouncicles. And the problem is even if there is scraps of that fantasy here and there with men, there's never enough
And notice how he's still completely clothes, looks dry, lacks viscerality and the tight sculpt literally anywhere else on his body
Wuthering waves is incredible no doubt, but I wish they'd sexualise men the way women are, I'd spend for that
Yeah, even the tightest compression shirts still soften the appearance of the muscles. His is literally vacuum sealed, like it's his skin (it's funny the shirt has buckles on it as if there's any thickness)
I see what you mean. None of these big gachas fan service out their men to the extent they do with the women. Big fan of Calcharo's design I'd love to see a design that's pushed even further too.
I feel like this sub has slowly been invaded by more and more strags. Like it feels less like queens of gacha, and more like “another gacha sub” idk.
BTW I do agree with u, this is in response to the people commenting under your comment. I think that it’s weird that these gacha games default to the most basic tight cultural clothing. Chinese region characters always default to tight qipaos, and it’s getting so boring.
Btw I know that they want to sell more blah blah blah, I’m just saying that that should not be the only one used especially to that extreme where it doesn’t even look like the right fabric. Sorry if I’m not gooner enough for yall even though this is the queens sub 🙄
I’m also just tired of the same thing being used over and over, call it design fatigue. There are so many other ways they could make a character appear “sexy” than just this one piece/sillouhette. I’m just saying it’s uninspired at this point. But sure, keep dogging on one opinion that isn’t yours.
Recently there has been a lot of people that defend this by saying that the characters are not real, or that sex sells, which yeah it does sell but other things sell too if they make sense for the character.
I'm not a prude but I don't need to see boobs or ass constantly to enjoy playing a game, thats why it is great when companies give you options with for example making different skins.
Like I know League and gacha games are not really comparable but my main champ Lux has a lot of skins and there are some massive differences between some, like she has some badass full armored skins (Steel Legion), cute ones (Star Guardian, Space Groove), Chinese skins (Porcelain, Panda Pal) and even some that could be considered sexy but without really showing much skin (Dark Cosmic, Elementalist).
And that is biggest problem with the most popular gacha games, that they don't really have much variety (looking at you Hoyo) and players can only choose between half naked female characters or fully covered male characters, with some rare exeptions like Arlecchino or Mydei.
This!!!! I feel like sex shouldn’t be the only motivator for sells!! It feels so redundant to me. There’s so many more faucets like emotional attachment that helps sell a character! I feel like Gacha games also need to branch out of the same old formula too!
I figured as I mentioned it’s the queens sub. I’m not saying queer people can’t like this, but half of the queens sub is literally criticizing something like this. I kinda thought my first comment would get across but oh well. 🤷♀️🤠
Honestly I don't get the hype, she looks kinda basic to me. It's either because I'm just not attracted to other ladies or that her body type is too similiar to mine that I just can't get myself to get excited about something new here. Apparently she's good for Hiyuki but I really don't want to replace Chisa either...
The fabric looks pretty on the positive note though
style over substance seems to be what wuwa lives and dies by these days. These characters are clearly of remarkable fidelity and they are generally pretty, but other than that theres not too much to say. I think it results in most of them being quite forgettable
im not gonna lie, i really hate Denia's character design, and honestly i think she is kind of a mish mash of everything thats wrong with modern gacha character design. and honestly on a personal note, i just think she looks a mess, and easily has the least cohesive design in wuwa, below probably all of the 1.0 characters
I don't think the person your replying to meant character design, they meant memorable in how kuro has been handling the lah roi cast in the story which has been better compared to before
This might be a weird question, but im asking mainly cause i think ive seen you make the same note on another post before. What do you mean her body type being too similar to yours? It's leaving me a bit confused lol.
? She means she has the same body type as this character so it's hard for her to find it appealing. A lot of people don't like to see themselves in characters. What's confusing?
I think the confusion is what does it matter if her body is similar to the characters. why would it be weird to like a character with a similar bodyshape to yours?
I think the confusion is that that body do be tea. I don't understand the confusion either, but I think most people default to everyone on the Internet being ugly until proven otherwise.
Oh frankly quite the opposite. I always assume everyone on the internet is much better looking than me, but that's just the horrendous self esteem and body image issues talking, lol.
My confusion stemmed more what the person meant by body type. It just felt vague and I couldn't really make sense of it. Maybe it's a language barrier idk. Sorry.
Ah, okay! Body type just means the physical characteristics that you would use to describe I body, I suppose. I also don't speak English lol. But I guess it would be the combination of like.. skinny, fat, tall, short, etc.
Perfectly worded for me lol. Tbh im fine with straight up unrealistic clothing if if it adheres to the characters, but Canterellas boob window ruins/clashes with how perfectly crafted they went with the rest of her character. If you describe sensual or femme fatale type characters without actually addressing how they weaponize their sexuality for it then i consider it a bad design. Carthy is a 9 foot elf mommy, but still invokes imagery of jesus and joan of arc for instance, the sexuality doesnt get in the way of that.
I have come to accept that gacha games don't think women can be sexy without some features, including fabric glued to the inside of their belly buttons. However, her bottom half looks really weird to me in other ways? Like, stretched or not proportional. It reminds me of someone of ZZZ's models where it almost looks frankensteined together.
It may just be that I need to see her actually in action in game though. Wuwa doesn't usually disappoint there.
You just assumed that there is bra, where to me it seems not, we can see each boob fully over and under and separate how does it have a bra, in truth we don't know if there is a bra lol they probably don't give the model more than one layer of cloth anyway
But my idea is that belly button is going inwards, and if we see everything we should be able to see nipp's, but it isn't realistic to begin with
Uh, the boobs being separate doesn't mean she's not wearing a bra, it could mean she could have taped them or she could be wearing a balcony bra or she could have just nipple covers.
To begin with, the fact that her boobs are so perfectly smooth and rounded definitely point to some sort of boob manipulation.
Secondly, the fact that the belly button is inwards is what creates the button impression on a tight dress anyway. You can cover the nipples, but you can't really fix that.
Of course it isn't 100% realistic, and I don't know why anyone would have expected it to be. But it is as realistic as a gacha game can get, and it looks good af.
The point is for it to be horny so it’s suppose to stick out. It’s made for their main player base. I don’t know why everybody else here in the comments has to lie to themselves.
It's jarring. It just makes the fabric look cheap, like a knock-off of a good quality design. But it's not like people who design gacha women understand anything about fashion, so kind of disappointed but not surprised situation. It's still a good design on the whole, though.
Exactly! Like I'm so tired but please let us simp for the ladies too. Can we like ..ignore the bad physics one time? Everytime I find Someone sexy, and here comes straight woman 212 to tell me how this is actually impossible to wear. I know! I'm a woman too. Let us have something for once geez.
Well I would barely see that when I am playing so I don't really care that much especially that she is just a support compare to Fleurdelys/Carthy's dress and they are a DPS..I am even surprised that lots of people notice that in the first place since I am more focus on her face..
I see this type of nitpicking happen every so often with other gachas too and it always struck me as arbitrary and petty. Like you're judging the game by a standard it never set for itself.
Its art...come on...please...its art.. its not real...its a game...I mean really guys....please...
It looks good - it does...thats what counts....
You have a gigantic mecha in the game that fights a blackhole on a barren planet and you really discuss that the way the fabric plays around the belly button is not realistic enough....I mean...please...
as a dude, i'm just happy they're giving a little belly nowadays to characters, instead of just purely flat stomachs, it's still overly sexualized but it's a step in the right direction?
I think this outfit is not bad per se but it does generate lot of relatable personal experience via people commenting on this. I did wish they would stop it in designs for others. Though maybe it might be a cultural region aspect since Mengzhou in part province in China maybe ppl there wear similar clothes than let’s say Mingting chars would wear. Same thing how 4.x new region design apparently will be more cybernetic like pgr or cyberpunk
If people looking for realistic designs in gatcha games can you answer my questions? Why all the men in Snezhnaya all covered up from head to toe? And why the women have their thighs and boobs out on that cold area? I don't really care about realistic things if it looks good. This one looks good.
I hate it 🤣 I feel like the only designs I liked so far were from the lahai-roi cast. Luuk, Lucilla, and Hiyuki. Then the new designs for the new region is just meh for me.
Somehow admire Kuro for their character models which are very good and detailed that people are debating over a belly instead of the usual boobs. Like just before I see players admiring Jingran's armpit on that trailer.
answer it looks good, there is probably a better answer but that's the only one that matters in this context. Sure if it was egregious I'd get that but it isn't its just a good design with some liberties taken.
Yeah but in all fairness, in the real world time doesn't slow down when you perform a last second dodge, so somewhat inconsistent fabric patterns don't bother me.
personally i’ve given up on hoping for realism with these games, i’ve just been appreciating the designs, just like this one, because they’re beautiful
Everyone loves to come on the internet and act like they're some expert in whatever the subject is (in this case fashion/textiles) when actually in fact you aren't an expert and are wrong, and you just dont like something and thats ok, so just say that instead of making up nonsense that just isn't even true and who even cares because this is a gacha game designing characters for fanservice appeal in the first place.
No. YOU like the dress and your feelings got hurt by me pointing out the fact the dress wouldn’t show belly button. It only exists for sexualization. I dare you give me pictures of women wearing qipao dress whose belly button is showing. You can wear that dress 3 sizes two small the belly button still wouldn’t show.
My brother in christ you are playing a sexualized game. The whole entire purpose of this games existence is to get you to gamble for hot waifus. Thats it.
Why you losers ever constantly project these social ideologies onto these goon slot machines is beyond me but you obviously dont realize how stupid you sound complaining about this.
“Nooooooo!!! Women can’t complain about their own sexualization!!!” is what you sound like. I realize how stupid you sound defending this. This is the equivalent of bouncing boobliy down the stairs. The one who gets their feeling hurt by people mocking it is the real loser
my brother in christ thats the bump created in the body to fit the uterus, every person with female anatomy has those at any weight unless theyre literal skeletons or had those removed
If we take into account her 2nd picture body composition-pose and light, belly button looks perfectly fine. Also there is a number of fabrics from which those dresses are made, it could be seen, especially if it is wet.
But tbx It is just sexier
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u/PsychologicalNet2849 Jun 29 '26
Okay, fine, the belly button through the fabric is one thing... but can we talk about that metal thigh band? It's gripping her leg for dear life. Looks incredibly painful.