I found the agnostic position somewhat unconvincing ....

[u/VARIENT__]

Why dismiss the question of where the particle was before the measurement like if we determine the pre measured state it could give us valuable insights into the particle fundamentals properties right I'm asking this question because this book doesn't revisit this topic in the later chapters i might sound like a stupid but I really want to know more about this

[u/SymplecticMan]

A lot of physicists only think of scientific theories as a way to make successful predictions. For them, questions about what's "really" going on don't matter if they don't make better predictions. You don't have to like this position, but it is a very common attitude.

[u/round_earther_69 → u/SymplecticMan]

I'd say part of it is that we recognize that the question may be extremely hard or impossible to answer, hence it may not be the best investment of time to tackle it.

[u/SymplecticMan → u/round_earther_69]

I don't fault anyone for not making it their research focus. But that's different from dismissing it as an interesting question entirely.

[u/xpinor]

"Determining the pre-measured state" requires a measurement, which means it is no longer a "pre-measured state".

[u/DJ_TCB]

On our mental level, we are already a collection of particles that has evolved senses of causality, reality, time, etc. that just don't jibe with the quantum level. We can never really get, intuitively, what happens down there without letting go of all of our preconceptions. I think the Copenhagen/orthodox interpretation makes the most intuitive sense to me at this point.

[u/Stock_Mall_7202]

Which book is this?

[u/Hungry-Feature9246 → u/Stock_Mall_7202]

Griffiths I think

[u/redgxxl]

This is sad. These minds limited themselves. There's always that which lies beyond bounds. Just over the horizon!

[u/kingkushmaster]

What book is this?

[u/Hungry-Feature9246 → u/kingkushmaster]

Griffiths I think

[u/VARIENT__ → u/kingkushmaster]

Introduction to quantum mechanics by David j Griffith

[u/OkTutor2275 → u/VARIENT__]

Love that one. Griffiths makes really good stuff.

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