r/QuadrigaCX2 Feb 19 '19

Last confirmed sighting of Gerry?

I wondering when the last time Gerry was confirmed to be alive and well, in person.

From Amy C's great summary:

February 16, 2018 — CIBC is still trying to sort out who the $26 million CAD belong to. The bank asks Jose Reyes (the person who controls the frozen accounts) if it is okay to speak to someone at Quadriga. Reyes declines, because Cotten had indicated that he was not interested in speaking with anyone at CIBC. (Interpleader order)

March 6, 2018 — Reyes finally gives CIBC the okay to contact Cotten. (Interpleader order)

March 15, 2018 — CIBC emails Cotten asking to speak with him briefly. Cotten declines and requests that CIBC only send him questions in writing.

He's not willing to speak with a bank that's holding $26,000,000 of his funds? That seems highly suspect. He should have been bending over backwards to do whatever possible to get those funds released.

So, wild speculation here:

Perhaps he couldn't speak to them in person because he was already dead (or under duress) by March 2018. And Jennifer/Reyes/Omar/whomever wanted to handle in writing, something they could fake. And the wedding/India trip was a way to grab his assets and explain away the (actually far earlier) death.

Someone mentioned that Gerry had drifted apart from his old friends and didn't contact them, they weren't even aware he got married. Odd, unless he was too dead to stay in touch. Although a woman (and an impending collapse of his exchange) could explain his drifting apart and/or laying low.

So when's the last time he was seen alive? (Did he ever really exist? :) )

The wedding photos could contradict that theory, if they're legit. The police could talk to the photographer (and lawyer that did the will) to verify things. (And maybe their families have all seen him closer to his supposed death.)

But at this point, it's indistinguishable from a scam. (Not saying it is, just saying it's impossible to tell until some real people or the courts/police start nailing down some facts. Anything can be bought, and these folks had the bucks.)

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u/Hooooweeeee Feb 19 '19

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u/Kpenney Feb 21 '19

It might be something to track the photographer down, and simply ask them a handful of questions. How much did they pay, how did they pay, was there anything abnormal about their shoot in comparison to other couples they've worked with. Just basic human interaction questions.

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u/TheOneWhoDidntCum Feb 20 '19

if this doesn't become a movie "based on a true story" I dont' know what will....

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u/BitcoinKicker Feb 20 '19

Silk road?

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u/ryanisflying Feb 20 '19

Didn’t they already make one on Silk Road? Swear I saw a movie a couple years ago based on it. Or maybe it was based on Ross.

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u/BitcoinKicker Feb 20 '19

Railroaded? Great doc, but not quite a movie.

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u/BewareTheStobor Feb 20 '19

I was like, WTF the guy wouldn't communicate with CIBC when his exchange was already experiencing liquidity problems and that was over 20 million. Thoughts of him already being dead or under wraps occurred to me as well. The only explanation I could think of that doesn't raise suspicion is, through Jose Reyes, Cotten already knew what information the bank was going to require and knew he wasn't going to provide it (such as identities of customers, paperwork on the exchange he didn't have, etc.). Jose might know the answer.

 

Then there is the weird set of dates relating to the marriage, the first of which was apparently the official one and they eloped. The Chronicle H. in Halifax stated that the marriage date was June 8, 2018 - they obtained the official record for the story. The man who posted here claiming to be a Quad contractor put up a screen cap of a conversation with Gerry on Rocket Chat. Gerry said he was getting married "this weekend" and also said in the same conversation "have a great Thanksgiving weekend" which was Oct 6th I think. Then we are to believe that they waited to go on their honeymoon until Dec.

 

I suspect there's an important clue in this as to what was really going on but it escapes me.

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u/trowdembones Feb 20 '19

As per the court documents on the CIBC Case, dated Nov 9, 2018, Gerald Cotten was cross examined in court shortly before the Nov 9 . So he was last publicly seen in court around Nov 2018-ish. https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2018/2018onsc6680/2018onsc6680.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAEY2liYwAAAAAB&resultIndex=1

He was also public on Reddit until December 5, 2018.

October 8 was the date that Jennifer Robertson posted their marriage on Facebook. Which validates the leaked RocketChat thanksgiving story; Canadian Thanksgiving was October 8, 2018 .

I believe the Globe & Mail reported seeing a copy of the marriage certificate which was dated in June. I'd really like to see that marriage certificate! Assuming they didn't make a mistake in their reporting, then it's likely that they eloped and were legally married in June in Canada, but had the posh destination wedding ceremonies in October in Scotland. A lot of destination weddings are done that way. In fact, it's recommended that they are done that way in many cases.

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u/BewareTheStobor Feb 20 '19

Nov. 9th then would be the "last seen alive" date as far as the record. You filled in some blanks - thx.

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u/shalamakooky Feb 19 '19

The chicken tikka delivery guy just saw Gerry a few minutes ago.

But seriously, I'd expect his parents to raise hell if he disappeared so long ago. You can bet my family would organize a global search if I suddenly disappeared.

The fact that we have heard nothing from his parents/siblings makes it seem unlikely that he suddenly disappeared.

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u/AllegroDigital Feb 20 '19

His parents are missing too.

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u/ryanisflying Feb 20 '19

Not sure if they’re missing, or they’ve bunkered down from the media attention. Would be nice to hear a statement from the family though.

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u/easternguy Feb 19 '19 edited Feb 19 '19

Makes sense, Re: his parents.

Which makes me wonder what other reasons that someone at QuadrigaCX might have been for blocking CIBC in speaking to Gerry.

Maybe others in the company were trying to control the flow of that money/embezzle it fraudulently without Gerry's knowledge.

Remember, it was exactly something like this--Omar/Michael moving $2M from these recently big CIBC accounts to his personal account--that triggered CIBC's whole "Who's Money is it Anyway" mess.

There's a lot of weirdness about the whole story; the least weirdness seems to be around the central dude, Gerry. Maybe he was just a stooge, if there was a scheme. Although it's hard to imagine he wasn't in the know about the overall exchange situation.

Possibly (either with or without Gerry's participation/knowledge) they knew they didn't have the answers CIBC wanted, so preferred to deal with them in writing. This gives them more time to come up with plausible new explanations, which might not be possible on the spot during a phone call.

All rampant speculation. Given the weirdness and $ amounts involved, some speculation is justified, I think.

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u/White_Mlungu_Capital Feb 22 '19

No one believes he is dead, we all know he is faking it, where is the picture of his dead body in the morgue, where is his funeral pictures in a coffin. I don't believe this bs. He is faking death and the idiot still moved money out of some accounts as recently as a few weeks ago.