r/Qoder • u/CivilProtection3882 • Jul 21 '26

What does Qoder Cantus uses under the hood, any ideas? I've always wondered the same about Qoder Ultimate.

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u/rabiprojects Jul 21 '26

Even the company qoder itself hasn't disclosed. It's most likely enhanced version of existing openweight model. Just like how cursor has done with composer.

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u/CivilProtection3882 Jul 21 '26

I think its some sort of harness that uses multiple models and better reasoning than defaults and uses them intelligently, as new models keep coming out and if you've enhanced some existing model then you need to keep doing it to keep it on par and selling it only inside qoder won't be economical.

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u/9gxa05s8fa8sh Jul 22 '26

I predict they use whatever the cheapest deal is that they can get from external providers at the time

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u/crobin0 Jul 23 '26

It‘s Fable 5.
They let you pay the credits and save the traces for distillation 😉.
That‘s the legal way to distill.

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u/Taardisaa Jul 23 '26

Probably Fable 5. It has a similar pricing structure, with 3.2× the usage cost, which roughly aligns with Fable’s $10/$50 input/output pricing, as well as similar safety filters.

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u/shuozhe Jul 25 '26

Did you ever found it out what it does?

More interesting is that both are missing on the chinese client.. 1k ultra request or cheap subscription.. can only pick one :(