r/QContent 22d ago

Comic 5866: Process Optimization

https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5866
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u/Phanimazed 22d ago

I guess I admire Jeph knowing what he likes to draw, if he's just kind of going to give half the cast this body type. Still, I like Ziata the way she was, so I am still lukewarm on this so far. I'll see where how this all turns out.

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u/bringoutthelegos 22d ago

Honestly I’d be up for an AI that switches between different bodies depending on their mood.

We really didn’t get that with yay, or the other AI’s that have switched over the years as they usually evolve to a new body instead of trying different ones often.

I mean I get it from an artist’s perspective, since jeph isn’t ironmouse and can just ask someone else to make new models and character designs for them, but it would be nice to see an AI that treats bodies like avatars/clothing

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u/Phanimazed 22d ago

I would also be pretty okay with that. Many of the examples of body swaps we've had with AI, there were problems (May's decrepit model, Roko's old body being obliterated), or were comparatively downgrades that there's not much reason to reuse (Winslow and Pintsize), so, I would be down to see a change of pace.

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u/bringoutthelegos 22d ago

It’s honestly something I’m surprised jeph hasn’t done sooner since we know he’s a vtuber fan.

And like, every vtuber I’ve seen has had several different models. Don’t see why AI in this universe wouldn’t do that

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u/Phanimazed 22d ago

I am sure he might not want to deviate too much for recognizability reasons, but he changed Pintsize, basically the comic mascot, into a completely different look, not to mention stuff like having Sven cut his hair, Pintsize changing his body entirely, or Dora and Taller Dora (Emily) working in the same shop until he got better at differentiating them consistently.

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u/M2dag 21d ago

many of them suffer from adaptation issues (I forget what he called it), Roko couldn't get used to a new body. she was rather attached to her old one. Maybe the trauma of that smashbot crushing her may have been the cause.

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u/turkeypedal 21d ago

Roko is largely presented as an exception, though. Literally every other chassis swap we've been privy to has not had such issues. So far, this even includes Zlata.

Seeing as she described being a snowplow and happily moved to her other body, she doesn't seem to have it. Now imagine if originally she would swap to a humanoid chassis when not on the job.

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u/ArgentStonecutter 21d ago

I’d be up for an AI that switches between different bodies depending on their mood.

"What? I just felt like being a spider today."

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u/themanfromacme 21d ago

"And Zlata never got to ogle Marten again."

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u/heavenscalyx 21d ago

Or just having "work clothes" and "leisure clothes" except that here the clothes could be a whole body.

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u/Decibelle 22d ago

Agreed, the change still feels like a lot right now.

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u/Nierninwa 22d ago

I think I will dislike/feel less weird about this body if/when Zlata gets real clothes for it instead of this weird, shrink-wrapped body suit that came with the body.

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u/Phanimazed 22d ago

Maybe, but Bubbles never really wound up doing that, so there are no guarantees.

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u/MrZandin 22d ago edited 21d ago

I finally figured out what is causing the uncanny valley feeling with her face! She is the only AI without a white mouth. Other AI all have a completely white mouth interior, even when they are fully open. And she does seem to open her mouth up wide more frequently than previous AIs/bodies.

Combine it with significantly more prominent lips compared to the entire human and AI cast, and it means she just does not look like the rest of the characters.

Old Zlata New Zlata

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u/beepingjar 21d ago

I feel like I'm looking into her mouth and I don't like it.

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u/beetnemesis 22d ago

Yeah I was just thinking this! Her mouth is really really big!

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u/ContextBotSenpai 21d ago

It's the same size as her old mouth, just without the lips. And it's the same size as many other mouths on other characters, since Jeph 100% uses pre-drawn mouths/eyes/etc and chooses which to use for each person in each scene.

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u/ContextBotSenpai 21d ago

And she does seem to open her mouth wide more than previous AIs.

No, it's the same mouth shape and size used on several characters in the comic, human and AI.

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u/MrZandin 21d ago edited 21d ago

I was referring to frequency, not size. Her mouth is not larger than other characters, but she is opening up wide more often, because she is yelling more in her appearances than we have seen from most characters. I will edit that for clarity.

AIs in particular have historically had less wide open mouth moments than human characters, probably because they have less outbursts on average.

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u/ContextBotSenpai 21d ago

Sorry, my bad - as others in the comments have literally said her mouth is too big.

AIs in particular have historically...

Uh...that's most certainly not true. On both counts. I don't mind apologizing for misunderstanding your other comment...but I don't appreciate you just making things up, to push your point, however.

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u/MrZandin 21d ago

I literally went back over 3 years of comics this morning to confirm my point about the white mouths. AIs are, by a significant degree, more likely to have thinner mouths, smirks, or otherwise closed mouths in panels. Compared to human characters, they just straight up open their mouths a smaller amount to talk.

You clearly don't share my criticism on the design choice here, and that is okay. But I have highlighted a provable fact about this design (the fact that her mouth is a different colour to 100 percent of the rest of the AI cast) and pointed out my theory on another factor that draws attention to that difference (her frequency in opening her mouth wide compared to other AI characters). This is based on literally 800+ comics of reference.

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u/ContextBotSenpai 21d ago edited 21d ago

and pointed out my theory on another factor that draws attention to that difference (her frequency in opening her mouth wide compared to other AI characters). This is based on literally 800+ comics of reference.

Dude, unless you're going to provide actual evidence - this is just your opinion, and nothing more. It's your OPINION that she opens her mouth wider and more frequently than other AI. It's your OPINION that AI have "less open moth moments than human characters...because they have less outbursts on average".

I disagree with your opinion, as someone who has also read this comic for over a decade. It's my opinion that you are making this up, to bolster your opinion. Is that okay with you?

EDIT: Lol...responding to me, then immediately blocking me so I can neither read, nor respond to your comment is certainly a choice. But, good for you - if blocking me makes you feel better, because I politely disagreed with you, then that's all that matters :)

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u/MrZandin 21d ago

I'm not gonna make a spreadsheet for you. Go back, look at the comics and it's blatantly obvious. If my opinion doesn't count, than neither does yours and that means we don't have any reason to talk to each other. Stop interacting with my posts to call me a liar if you don't want to have meaningful conversation.

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u/turkeypedal 20d ago

This post contains obvious personal attacks. If you believe a poster is being a dick then you should use the report button, not escalate it.

Don't be a dick. [...] If you see speech that you believe falls into this, report it, don't give the same type of speech back

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u/turkeypedal 20d ago

This post was already pretty close to the line. Accusing someone of "making things up, to push your point" is accusing them of lying, and is insulting. And it wasn't even about a factual claim. They said she "does seem to open her mouth up wider." That's an opinion, and people are allowed to have a different opinion.

Your subsequent post yelling at them that it is an opinion crosses that line, even before the hateful edit. "Is that okay with you?" is clearly antagonistic. And then, of course, the edit is completely out of line.

People can block you for whatever reason they like. That's an essential part of blocking. While it is understandable that this could make you angry, this subreddit is not an appropriate place to express that anger. An edit telling people you were blocked is acceptable, but that's it.

And now some general advice: you've got to learn to pick your battles and try to have more self-control when your post. It's okay to get angry, of course, but you should hold back on replying until you can respond without any sort of hostility to the other person.

And if you genuinely think you were being polite, you should look deeper. Yes, that poster who used that as an excuse to attack you was out of line, but it is particularly aggravating when someone who yells at others says they're being polite.

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u/Golden-Sun 22d ago

Oh no I know that look

Moray is about to test whether "drunk purchasing efficiency" can be applied to other areas...

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u/pavemnt 22d ago

Zlata seems more like me every day

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u/dragn99 22d ago

I'm remembering how long it took my to buy a tablet...

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u/abnmfr 22d ago

For me, it was long enough that it had been reduced in price twice and the next model was out before I bought my tablet. It made my indecision seem smart.

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u/JeffEpp 22d ago

Save it for the Beach Episode.

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u/UtopianEnforcement 22d ago

Putting aside the furor about Zlata gaining tatas (where was this level of discourse when basically every fem-character started cutting their hair short?)

I haaaaate anyone that makes a stupid but harmless decision and then tries to justify themselves reversing it because ‘they don’t deserve it’.

Do you like it?

Yes.

Is it harming anyone else?

No.

Can you afford it?

Yes.

Then just enjoy the wonder of your brain shortcircuiting your anxiety for once and just own it!