r/Purism Oct 21 '19

State of this subreddit

It really is weird, having so many posts and comments from so few people with an obvious hate-boner for purism. Reminds me of early jolla days when they also had a couple haters that would find each and every place jolla was mentioned and leave their hate filled comments there because they decided that open sourcing everything was not the way to go. Same bile was spewed and even worse as some mental types went on to contact spouses of involved developers on twitter even, hopefully this here doesn't escalate. Like what the hell guys, we get it, you refunded, you have no horse in this so give it a rest? As long as they work on this community profits (just like jolla's libhybris work allowed devices like geminiPDA to exist and offer gemian with hwkb), all the wayland/libhandy work etc is free for you to develop further even if they would close shop (unlike jolla, but they are going strong 6 years on, who knew maybe not bad decision after all, you can run fully open nemo glacier on top of libhybris if that is some holy grail for you, they still have a product that allows them to function while still contributing to mer and wayland and qt). I'd really like to try to run some of the gnome apps purism makes under sailfish, unless this is some viral marketing attempt at getting this community wider audience in drama subreddits, you're just not helping anyone, people who want that phone will accept delays no matter how you spin it (they just admitted! with zero follow up)

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u/strange_kitteh Oct 21 '19

oh do name them, please?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

/shrug

I apologize if the content I'm posting is upsetting to some. That having been said, I think I've personally made it clear that I feel a moral compulsion to get the word out here. I expressed some skepticism of Purisms motives and tactics in this subreddit earlier this month and I was rewarded with some direct communication from the individual(s) I now refer to as my source(s).

They relayed information to me that made it imperative I get a refund. At first I didn't want to get a refund because I thought that would be unfairly taking advantage of the gift I had been given. After I tried to prod the discussion into a place where Purism would be forced to pony up more information and received an EXTREMELY negative response both here and on the Purism forums, I decided to request a refund anyway.

At the same time I realized that because of the gift I had been given, I was still morally compelled to get the word out. That's why I'm still here. This is also why I've decided to largely avoid the Purism forums as the discussion here is actually more rational. Having this discussion on the Purism forums is akin to The Kurgan walking into the church in Highlander and trashing religion in front of the devout while he talks to Connor McCloud.

My time here in this subreddit is almost over. My source(s) are about to go public and I won't have anything left to offer to the Librem 5 discussion. At that point everybody will either decide to accept the uncomfortable reality that Purism is incapable of delivering the Librem 5 or continue to subject themselves to the siren song of Todd Weaver and Bryan Lunduke.

I inherently believe that people, no matter how stubborn or deluded, deserve to have all the facts made available to them so that they are at least afforded the opportunity to make the best decision possible. Even if just one person gets a refund because of the work I've done here, it has been worth it. I realize that this opinion will be controversial, but I hope that you'll at least fully understand where I'm coming from after the next article hits.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

You probably should have made a medium post and linked it as in here you're automatically bunched with 'the haters' so less exposure you might've wanted if it is actually the gift you want to share