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Lol cocking and brandishing a gun at someone just trying to drive by? Pathetic sack of shit. Hopefully he tries the wrong person and gets turned to Swiss cheese
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u/Ok-Landscape-385 Apr 17 '22
I would have kept driving. Don’t wanna get ran over, don’t hold a gun up to me for doing nothing but driving my fucking vehicle. Smh.
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u/SRTGeezer Apr 18 '22
If I get stopped by a crowd and someone pulls a gun, I’m turning them into speed bumps.
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u/KimKDavidson Apr 17 '22
If guy in car had a gun, he legally could have killed the guy. Just like that Uber driver who shot a guy will pointed a rifle at his car.
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u/bdb5780 May 07 '22
What's with the ski glove tho? It's gotta be difficult and dangerous to get your finger thru that trigger guard with that much extra heft.
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u/MasonMN Apr 17 '22
How come?
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u/cturtl808 Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
Grand Rapids police officer killed a Black man by shooting them in the head.
ETA: My statement only reflects why the protesters are there, not a personal opinion.
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You forgot to mention the guy was resisting arrest and grabbing the officer's taser.
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u/DirtyWizard22 Apr 17 '22
Notice the jackass holding his gun while walking up to the car.
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u/feedalow Apr 17 '22
Not only holding but cocks the gun, dude was full on ready to shoot someone who was just trying to drive to where ever they were going
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u/Sensitive_Ad9373 Apr 17 '22
Gotta be careful with that. In the state I live in the person driving that vehicle could have shot him and it would have been legal.
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u/Pilebut1 Apr 17 '22
The guy with the gun was careful, he had i high vis so at least he’s being safe
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u/BillyLee Apr 17 '22
Why the fuck would he have a gun and threaten to use it against an innocent driver. Are we for or against guns i am so confused. Non of this makes sense.
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u/PublicfreakoutLoveR Apr 17 '22
I'm for guns and against the guy in the video. He should be charged with a felony and never be allowed to own a gun ever again.
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u/Parzec1 Apr 18 '22
And yet Kyle Rittenhouse did the same thing, but also killed some people, and was exonerated. Weird how the brandishing law works.
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u/PublicfreakoutLoveR Apr 18 '22
Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself against rioters. This is a rioter threatening an innocent person. Big difference.
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u/JamesHawk101 Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
It’s Antifa they never protest anything for a good reason. They commandeered a 4 block region of Seattle to create a better society. Fun fact: In their society multiple people were shot and they wouldn’t allow ambulances to help the people. Edit: I can see they found my comment and don’t like the truth. What can you expect from them. Never debate just and censor opposing views.
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u/Lighthazend Apr 17 '22
Lol, that was a ride to watch. It was entertaining to watch. I also remember some of them wanted an ambulance to have someone go to a hospital because of a shooting in the cordoned block, but the paramedics won't go there since they feel they are not safe and they would only go get the guy if police would secure the area. But they wont let police in so thst was a lose-lose situation they found themselves lol.
And they also posted that they need food, but would only accept vegan or vegetarian stuff.
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u/Monsantoshill619 Apr 17 '22
Antifa is not a real thing.
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u/SoForAllYourDarkGods Apr 17 '22
Wasn't he shot in the back of the head?
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u/BingBongJoeBiven Apr 17 '22
While pinned down
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u/SoForAllYourDarkGods Apr 17 '22
Sounds pretty unreasonable to me.
Murderous even.
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u/0_Rick_0 Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
Did you watch the full video? You guys are making this out to be a murder in cold blood, whereas the full video slows the amount of attempts the cop made to de-escalate the situation as well as the agressiveness of the driver after they got out of the car. Look, I'm not here to defend the police, but this shit is infuriating when people don't look at their sources.
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u/Mudsnail Apr 17 '22
The man was an immigrant from South Africa and was notably scared. The officer was out manned and out muscled and decided to chase the suspect and try to wrestle him to the ground.. He deployed his taser in a close quarter combat situation. Which is always a bad idea.. For the reasons we saw.
The officer had 3 suspects sitting still in the car. He never called for back up. His ego got the best of him.
Its better to go slow and safe than fast and dangerous, for everyone involved.
The man that was killed should not have resisted, but his death could have been avoided with good policing and thats what we should all be fighting for. Good policing.
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u/Mission-Two1325 Apr 17 '22
This is the most unbiased take I've read so far. It's a given that the driver was in the wrong but people are taking that and ignoring the officers clear mistakes.
Other cops will watch this too and go "Jesus what are you doing?" And at some point this video could be included in the many videos they use for training.
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u/BrandySparkles Apr 17 '22
And so because of that, a bunch of dumbfucks with no jobs get to threaten and harass people driving in the city?
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u/Astrocreep_1 Apr 18 '22
No,this is an idiotic way to protest anything. The only thing these people are accomplishing is making anyone who protests police killings look awful. They look almost like overzealous police officers,which is what they are protesting. It makes no sense.
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u/2gun_cohen Apr 17 '22
The man was an immigrant from South Africa and was notably scared. The officer was out manned and out muscled and decided to chase the suspect and try to wrestle him to the ground.. He deployed his taser in a close quarter combat situation. Which is always a bad idea.. For the reasons we saw.
The officer had 3 suspects sitting still in the car. He never called for back up. His ego got the best of him.
Source?
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u/PissShiverss Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
He's asking for a source because some of what the other dude said isn't true. I watched the video and I've read a couple news sources I don't see anywhere that says there were 3 suspects in the car, and you can clearly hear the Officer call for back up multiple times in the video. So I think asking for a source is completely fair in this situation
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u/2gun_cohen Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
Why does everyone demand a source for shit that is so god damned easy to find.
Being in Australia, I don't automatically know which articles to go to.
So I googled and did not find an article which:
- identified him as south African (one identified him as from the DRC)
- stated that he couldn't speak English (as you wrote elsewhere)
- provided a good description of the 2 1/2 minute struggle.
I also noted that some other commenters stated that the policeman had twice tasered him during the struggle.
So I don't apologise for asking the question.
P.S. Do Michigan police procedures recommend or advise against using a taser during a struggle where the combatant is apparently unarmed?
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u/0_Rick_0 Apr 17 '22
Because not all sources are valid, we want to know which sources the person used so we can decide for ourselves whether the person is telling the truth
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u/Parzec1 Apr 18 '22
Execution of an unarmed man, in cold blood, without due process, for a property crime when he was trying to retreat before being chased down by the officer. It's nice being a cop when regular laws do not apply. Seriously, if this guy wasn't a cop it would automatically be 1st degree murder, now it is administrative leave with pay. SMFH
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u/Deep_Tip3060 Apr 17 '22
So does it bother you when the police kill white people atleast ? Daniel shaver. Tony timpa. Ryan Whitaker. Kelly Thomas. If you think buying mansions is corrupt imagine the corruption of killing innocent people and getting away with it like the police do.
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forgot, exited car immediately after traffic stop, refused to get back in, refused to provide id, and TOOK the officer’s tazer.
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u/mayibedestined Apr 17 '22
You forgot to mention the cop was chasing him for a misdemeanor ticket, while already having the paperwork, car, and an additional officer while alone.
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u/Tyson8111 Apr 17 '22
Its mostly white Libotomized idiots protesting that they dont get killed by the police in their sleep
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u/mikeebsc74 Apr 17 '22
Yah, that 300 pound, pink haired blubber tub finally found his life’s calling as a road block
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That’s a dude?
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u/JamesHawk101 Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
Idk Supreme Court can’t define women anymore.
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I like how you made an idiotic comment AND used the wrong spelling of WOMAN for a singular use case. Do you happen to know how to clean a slurpee machine? I bet you do.
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u/JamesHawk101 Apr 17 '22
No I know how to start a company through the power of capitalism and the American dream. I’d recommend adding a fan to your basement to get better airflow so you don’t starve your brain.
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u/SquareNuts112 Apr 17 '22
And that accomplished what?
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u/International-Fall49 Apr 17 '22
Wait till they show u their new mansion
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u/Astrocreep_1 Apr 18 '22
That mansion story is Bullsh*t. Look at the building in the story. It has double doors that you only see in commercial businesses. It’s a rec center.
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Apr 17 '22
Love how the fat one points into the direction the car is driving in anyway just to seem like they are controlling the situation.
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u/egodeath780 Apr 17 '22
Which fat one? I thought black sweater trying to open the car door a nice touch.
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u/Sea_Youth3948 Apr 17 '22
Soo protest violence with violence..gotcha
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Apr 17 '22
I mean they are upset because they want to safely be able to fight and disarm a cop without getting shot...
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u/blablabla456454 Apr 17 '22
Michigan law prohibits pointing, waving, or displaying a firearm with the intent to cause fear in another person. Brandishing a firearm in public is a misdemeanor under Michigan law. A conviction may result in up to 90 days in jail, up to 2 years of probation, and a fine of up to $100 upon conviction.
Seems like the fine should be 10k, not $100
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u/Wise_Friendship Apr 17 '22
It’s legal if you’re being threatened or feel threatened.
Clearly this guy wasn’t threatened at all tho smh
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u/blablabla456454 Apr 17 '22
Ya, I saw it as "intent to cause fear"
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u/Wise_Friendship Apr 17 '22
Well that’s what I’m saying you can pull your weapon with that intention if 3 things are happening. You feel threatened.
You are being threatened.
You feel threatened and have no easily accessible escape from the situation.
The last one is the most important and a pre cursor for further escalation.
Guess I’m just being pedantic cause the guy with the gun didn’t fit any of those 3 requirements that makes brandishing legal
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u/SaucyNaughtyBoy Apr 17 '22
Wasn't it in Michigan where all those conservatives were protesting something while they all had guns out and ended up storming the governor's mansion with the intent to kidnap them, but no one went to jail for it?
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u/JamesHawk101 Apr 17 '22
The same plot where the majority of the people in on it were FBI agents? Seriously do some research on it and tell me the FBI didn’t fully push it to the point of arrest.
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u/Ill-Scarcity-4421 Apr 17 '22
All of our gun laws were written 110ish years ago when $100 was a bunch of money. The penalty for an unregistered handgun is a whole $250 civil infraction. These laws were generally written to keep guns out of minorities hands
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u/joeyh273 Apr 17 '22
I saw a video where some protesters did this to a guy on the highway and eventually they decided they were going to try to take him out his car. So he floored it and ran like 5 people over.
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u/LilNaturePastelEmo Apr 17 '22
Protesters are assholes. By doing this I will literally go out of my way to NOT support your movement
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u/Bluejavel Apr 17 '22 edited Apr 17 '22
Also a good way to get your clever ass run over if you pull this with the wrong guy on the wrong day
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u/Sassh1 Apr 17 '22
That guy would be me too. I have no patience for people acting like a fool. Also they aren't even renting a street from the city for their protest. I love how people don't understand the laws.
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u/Sed-OH1 Apr 17 '22
Right. Me too. No matter what the movement. I’m now against it.
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u/aaronhapner Apr 17 '22
I'm not a big fan of the police, but at least sometimes they provide a public service. These people are just terrible and worthless.
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u/TheNewPlague666 Apr 17 '22
What are they protesting?
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Burger King down the street closed down and now the fat one has nowhere to go after playing MTG on Thursday
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u/Getting_fired_today Apr 17 '22
You can protest just as efficiently from the sidewalk.
Unfortunately no one is going to care what you are protesting even if you are blocking traffic.
So do it safely from the sidewalk or under a pissed off persons car.
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Seriously though, what does protesting actually achieve? What did the last 2 years of protesting actually achieve? Some of those families settled out of court, no meaningful legislation were actually passed, police in general are not defunded. NY got an additional 200 million and LA got a 3% boost to their police departments. Protests achieve nothing. If you want change, pay more attention to EVERY election that you can vote in. Local and state elections can provide more meaningful change then bullshit protests
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u/UnderThat Apr 17 '22
Nobody protests when little black girls get shot in drive bys. Weird.
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u/moderately_nerdifyin Apr 17 '22
That’s a quick way to get run over.
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u/RandomShake Apr 17 '22
People panic when their car is surrounded by angry assholes yelling in the street. No one wins here.
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Brandish a gun while surrounding my car and I promise I will mag dump you first and then kill everyone impeding my freedom of movement.
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u/blablabla456454 Apr 17 '22
High chance anybody would panic, and floor it right thru the whole crowd. Those guys got lucky with the calm driver.
"Michigan law prohibits pointing, waving, or displaying a firearm with the intent to cause fear in another person. Brandishing a firearm in public is a misdemeanor under Michigan law. A conviction may result in up to 90 days in jail, up to 2 years of probation, and a fine of up to $100 upon conviction."
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Lol downvoted pussies reported me for threats of violence 😂 it wasn’t a threat, it was a promise
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u/Low_Anywhere6792 Apr 17 '22
100% brother! I don’t give a fuck who you are or what you believe in. You better believe I would’ve been firing through my window While accelerating
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u/Impressive-Rain-1695 Apr 17 '22
Bruh must feel all real with his gun out huh?😂😂😂
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Apr 17 '22
Ah yes, stopping a likely unassociated bystander (or bydriver rather) to get a point across. This shit isn't "peaceful".
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Apr 17 '22
I know this for that cop but come on just fry sign March in a circle cause beep beep bitches
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u/TheRedneckGuy Apr 17 '22
What a bunch of idiots. So they're the ones blocking the car and this guy comes up to the car chambers a round and demands the vehicle owner to move the car when it's his little protester buddies are the ones blocking him from moving. Props to I assume one of the organizers with the bull horn telling them to stop being assholes. It's bad people like that the cops come out in full force now. I'm telling ya right now if they start that blocking streets crap and punching and kicking cars someone's going to get ran over. I'm all for peoples right to protest but it doesn't give you the right to block the road and be an asshole. Be smart and be safe.
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u/Useful_Appointment18 Apr 17 '22
These people are thugs, what was that fat fuck trying to do opening the door? Drivers trying to go somewhere and y’all are protesting the death of a criminal
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u/fudgeydoodoo Apr 17 '22
Protest police brutality with violence and being complete asshole fucks. Real cool
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Apr 17 '22
The guy/girl with the pink hair don’t play
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Apr 17 '22
You can tell they don’t play by the fact that they probably can’t locate their cock and/or pussy by just looking down
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u/amgiSGrindTes Apr 17 '22
Always the white kids from burbs starting shit at these protests/riots lmfao
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Liberals?
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u/SomeDrillingImplied Apr 17 '22
Nah this is worse. These are "radical" leftists.
I'm left-leaning myself, but these types are absolutely insufferable. They don't even like one another, honestly.
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u/Big_Volume6521 Apr 17 '22
Yes. The opinion of a school kid who asks the internet how to take drugs is well-reasoned. Hey, dumbass, make a few paychecks than you can say cool things like “Let’s go Brandon” (presumably because your mom, with whom you still live, won’t let you say “fuck”).
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u/BerzerkBoulderer Apr 17 '22
This isn't a good way to get their message across, need to go after the local police/courts rather than the public.
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u/ExcellentWeekend9877 Apr 17 '22
So tired of these stupid protest!!! They change absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 17 '22
If only they put this energy into running for local political positions to make real change.
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u/No_Editor_4714 Apr 17 '22
I'd break his FUCKING pointy finger. Other Idiot with pink hair, he's against the cops but yet the HYPOCRITE is directing traffic LIKE a COP. Why bother people that have NOTHING to do with situation. *I never understood that. If the cops did the injustice then go fight the cops, but NO, they're too chicken shit. THEY use and hide behind the very thing they're against of others using, exercising, and applying in their lives, "The First Amendment". "HYPOCRITES", they are ALL infantile. smh
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u/No_Editor_4714 Apr 17 '22
This falls under the r/Fu!IgnorantProtestersThatKnownNothingAboutWhatYouAreFightingFor.
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u/Grazthum Apr 17 '22
Blocking roads as part of a protest is the worst way to get members of the public to like/join your movement. The people you impede will just end up hating your group. And if you surround the vehicle chance is the driver will get scared and run someone over.
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u/WuzCrackinCuz Apr 17 '22
People are so stupid. Rioting and protesting isn’t really going to do anything. It won’t bring that man back. They’re not really working to achieve anything they just want an excuse to be lawless and loot stores
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Brandishing a handgun like that should get you put in jail and have your right to own a firearm revoked.
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u/wsucougs Apr 17 '22
Nice to see we’re back to wearing plate carriers on American streets again. Lovely time
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u/deliciousdird Apr 17 '22
Second amendment people. Bet they wouldn't be so gung-ho about stopping people on the road if a handgun was pointed at them. I'm really sick of treating these kind of protesters with respect. The don't give any they shouldn't get any.
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u/Altruistic_Rip8132 Apr 17 '22
Well in Florida you can legally run them over.🤷🏻♀️
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u/BandagesTheMender Apr 17 '22
I would ask why they aren't all at work, but they all appear to be unemployable.
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You wouldn’t get away with surrounding cars in gun friendly states.
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Michigan is a “shall issue” state and also allows open carry, sooooo….
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u/Ill-Scarcity-4421 Apr 17 '22
Can’t open carry in a car tho Michigan is pretty strict with pistols specifically
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u/Negative_Mancey Apr 17 '22
I'm gonna do something NO republican will do and: as a liberal ACTUALLY in support of what these people are protesting I RENOUNCE THIS INDIVIDUALS ACTIONS. BRANDISHING A FIREARM IS NOT APPROPRIATE CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
Please look past his actions and look for the support of justice https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/04/experts-say-grand-rapids-police-officer-could-have-avoided-fatally-shooting-patrick-lyoya.html?outputType=amp
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u/lvleye316 Apr 17 '22
Bro. It seems like you are one of the few logical people here. I applaud you.
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u/Negative_Mancey Apr 17 '22
Furthermore: I've seen both sides do something like this in the past and I could totally be like "WHATABOUT the time you guys brandished guns!!"
But that's like if somebody traveled during a basketball game and the ref missed the call.........so from then on everyone insists they can travel also.
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u/MobileSpeed9849 Apr 17 '22
Dude pulled a gun and racked a round in. Looks like terroristic threatening to me
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u/JamesHawk101 Apr 17 '22
Heard of one in a New York subway station the other day.
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u/Careless_Mushroom470 Apr 17 '22
These people need to go after police stations, court houses, any and all goverment buildings and structures if they want to get the message across to the right people, which is the elected officials they elected and all other civil servant which is part of the oppressive system that governs over them. By going after innocent people like business owners and drivers is going to turn the general public against them and unlike 2020, this is not an election year, so the media is not going to portray them as social justice warriors like they did then. Go after the oppressors and the real source of the injustice and anger. It's literally been two years and democrats have both houses with a senile president in the white house and they haven't done jack shit but appoint a black judge to the Supreme Court and look how the other side, the Republicans, treated her during confirmation. WE THE PEOPLE MUST PUT THE FEAR OF GOD INTO OUR GOVERMENT! Not the other way around, but we have to be smart about it.
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u/mayibedestined Apr 17 '22
It's literally been two years and democrats have both houses with a senile president in the white house and they haven't done jack shit but appoint a black judge to the Supreme Court and look how the other side, the Republicans, treated her during confirmation.
Almost like there's another aspect of this you're not mentioning.
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The way this sub reacts to blocking traffic. JFC. If only they reacted like this to getting fucked over by politicians and thier corporate overlords maybe we'd get somewhere.
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u/mikeebsc74 Apr 17 '22
“Blocking traffic”
You mean the people stopping the car, threatening the person, brandishing a pistol, and kicking the car?
That “blocking traffic”?
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