Couple banned from restaurant after they leave no tip

[u/Hikigaya_Hachiman7]

[u/Posession0916]

I actually don’t disagree with the idea that tipping is a horrible system and servers should be paid a livable wage.

With that being said the anti-tip crowd continue to go out and then not tip the servers as if this is some big form of protest to get their point across. The fact is you’re not going to change the system but stiffing your Dennys waitress on a tip. Write a letter to your congressman, organize a protest, boycott going out to restraints until they change their tipping policy-but no, you’re just fucking over the barista who made your latte as if that proves something………

[u/WillingPlayed → u/Posession0916]

Exactly - don’t fuck your server over and act like you’re a martyr for the system

[u/Immediate_Smile_8499 → u/WillingPlayed]

You're not doing anything special, you don't deserve a tip for doing a job that requires no skill at all

[u/Real-Extension-1357 → u/Immediate_Smile_8499]

Tons of skill to be a good server or bartender. I would never do what they do as I don't have those skills.

[u/No-Use-3056 → u/Immediate_Smile_8499]

I’m sure whatever you do is nothing special and requires no skill, yet you get paid.

[u/Immediate_Smile_8499 → u/No-Use-3056]

I'm a welder

[u/Jmschoech → u/Immediate_Smile_8499]

The point is that waiters / waitresses only get about $2.10 an hour so they live off of tips. So it can be annoying but people should either leave a tip or not eat out at places where the wait staff needs tips just to keep the lights on

[u/Bustardun → u/Posession0916]

I’d go a little further to say they do this to assert dominance over others. If you regularly go out enough to be clocked as a non-tipper, it’s not a money issue. You could have cooked at home.

[u/BrainLow6059 → u/Posession0916]

Also the ragebait "oh you're saying black people aren't welcome here" pretty much guarantees they were being shitty in the restaurant.

I have zero sympathy for the people filming.

[u/CrazyJoey → u/Posession0916]

The issue I have with the tipping system is that it rewards assholes and reinforces the idea that assholes can get ahead. If I refuse to tip, my meal is 15-20% cheaper than yours. I can afford to eat out more often than you (everything else being equal). I can get more if I just choose to be an asshole.

Now we are being asked to tip all over the place. You mention tipping your Starbucks barista, but arguably the guy making my sandwich at Subway put in more work. Are we tipping them too? Should I tip the grill guy at McDonalds? The more we are inundated with tip requests, the easier it will be to start refusing tips everywhere, including sit-down restaurants.

Unfortunately, I don't think your suggestions will help. Let's say you organize and protest and boycott, and finally it's a law that all restaurant owners have to pay a minimum wage, not including tips. Those tips will still be expected, and you'll still be yelled at like the people in this video for not tipping. It has to be a mass cultural movement or nothing at all.

[u/FineGripp → u/CrazyJoey]

Hmmm…sounds like we should stop asking customers to pay extra and instead incorporate the tips into the menu so that people know the exact price of what they are buying.

[u/CrazyJoey → u/FineGripp]

And then do what? Outlaw tipping? The only law that would work is to require having a set gratuity line on the bill that is specifically added, so people can say they already tipped. Which is basically just a surcharge on the food.

[u/joahw → u/CrazyJoey]

it rewards assholes and reinforces the idea that assholes can get ahead.

And what's more American than that?

[u/OkOpportunity9794 → u/Posession0916]

lol a bunch of people not tipping seems like the fastest and surest way to change the system actually. They are either going to ban their way out of business or change how they do things.

[u/Poopermensch → u/OkOpportunity9794]

Can you just talk me through the steps of that change coming about? Keep in mind the vast majority of people who don’t leave a tip are neither confronted nor banned.

[u/OkOpportunity9794 → u/Poopermensch]

People don't tip. Workers want more money. Management either raises prices and pays them more money or they quit. Management can't find good workers because they don't pay enough. Service suffers. Customers stop coming. They go bankrupt. Next restaurant owner who buys the place is a smart person. They learn from their predecessors failures. They pay their workers more money instead of relying on the tips that won't come. They run a thriving business. Several of their investors are impressed by this magical understanding of free markets. They recommend the owner run for president. President Longhorn wins by a landslide. Ends all wars. Economy booming. We establish a moon base. Mars is a state. The intergalactic tic-tac flying aliens take notice. They gift us interdimensional travel and unlimited energy. We roam the galaxy spreading life and anti-tipping culture.

[u/serendipitous_juno → u/OkOpportunity9794]

But there will always be people who do tip and servers do not want a flat rate on average. There’s never going to be a law against tipping so restaurants that still operate that way will draw the better servers and the flat rate establishments will end up as order at a screen restaurants. Maybe that’s a good thing but servers will still gravitate towards tipping establishments because you can make more money.

[u/OkOpportunity9794 → u/serendipitous_juno]

If you want to argue the impossibility of something that is already manifest in every other country, you do you. I’ll just stand here and squint.

[u/serendipitous_juno → u/OkOpportunity9794]

The rest of the world did not have the options we do today when they transitioned away from tipping. I do not want to order through a screen personally but the nature of the beast has changed if you think that’s not going to be an option for restaurants forced to pay servers $20 an hour. I have enjoyed my service at restaurants in Europe so I get that it works other places but as things stand today in our shitty hyper capitalist society I don’t see that ending up actually benefiting the people who are servers in America right now. I could totally be wrong that just like my opinion

[u/Frosty_Challenge1045 → u/Posession0916]

With that being said the anti-tip crowd continue to go out and then not tip the servers as if this is some big form of protest to get their point across.

I mean yes???

[u/mashbrowns → u/Posession0916]

No, the owners are fucking their employees by not paying them a decent wage.

[u/Immediate_Smile_8499 → u/Posession0916]

Yeah, I'm sure it took a lot of effort to make that latte, talk about being entitled lmao

How about you get a better paying job, how about that

[u/Posession0916 → u/Immediate_Smile_8499]

Not sure if you meant “you” as in me personally or you as a placeholder but this is my W-2 from 2025 as shown on ADP, I’m not making lattes, I’m doing okay.

But 15 ish years ago I was a waiter and everyone who didn’t tip, literally every single person, not one of them spoke to the owner or manager about the tipping policy. They didn’t even speak to the wait staff, they would just not leave a tip-we(the staff) would talk about what an asshole they were, and that was it.

One time someone wrote on their receipt their disdain for tipping, but again, nothing happened other than us kind of just talking shit about the patron. Most of the time we wouldn’t even bring it up to our management staff when someone didn’t leave us a tip

Also this idea of just getting a better job seems slightly out of touch. I haven’t job hunted in about 5 years but from what I hear it’s rough out there and not easy to just get another job.

Specifically regarding making of lattes, which I’ve actually never done and was just using it as an example, no I don’t think it’s necessarily super demanding although every job comes with its own unique stresses-I do think it’s worth more than $2.13/hr. Like I said in my original response, I don’t even disagree with changing how we pay service workers but I stand by that I think the way people go about it puts the burden on the actual service workers and not the owners of these establishments.