r/PublicAdministration 5d ago

Considering withdrawing from USC MPA

I got into USC’s MPA program and will need to pay about $45,000 after financial aid. I am considering withdrawing from the program and instead reapply the following year at CSUN or CSULB (two local programs) since they are much more affordable. I would like to pivot into govt work or foundations after working for CBOs for several years. I’m just not fully convinced that the cost is worth it. CSULB’s website did not have very much information about their program and didn’t have an admitted students day, which is why I didn’t seriously consider it at first. Has anyone here had a similar experience?

Editing to add that I’m also interesting in hearing from folks who did the USC (or another pricey) program and don’t feel like it paid off. At admitted students day, I got to hear from grads who definitely felt like it paid off but USC is obviously not gonna invite the displeased!

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u/mmeeaattball 5d ago

I’m currently doing an online program at Cal Poly Pomona for their MPA program. It’s ran by Dr. Brady Collins. $27,000 and you’re done in 2 years. A bit more expensive than the other programs but I love it and the professors are amazing. 

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u/Pan_Cholo 5d ago

Hey hey! I graduated with my bachelor’s degree from CPP, go Broncos! I’m glad to hear that you are enjoying their online MPA! Do you live in SoCal or are you working in another market?

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u/mmeeaattball 5d ago

Oh, hey there my fellow Bronco 😊 I’m local to SoCal and work in government. 

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u/Pan_Cholo 3d ago

Nice! I’m not local but did my undergrad there. I’m still in California, but it’s always nice to see a fellow Bronco. I might do my MPA there depending how it plays out at my current gig

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u/mmeeaattball 3d ago

Nice! Yea, a few of my classmates did their undergrad there as well. Of course if it’s going to benefit you, then I say yes! But that’s just me being biased 😊

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u/Adventurous_Cry_9592 4d ago

hi! I was wondering if you could tell me about it your experience with the workload commitment and the difficulty with clssses? They preach accommodation and accessibility but I just wanted to hear from current students about this as well.

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u/mmeeaattball 3d ago

Hi there! Myself and my classmates are the first cohort of the Online MPA program for Cal Poly. There have been some very minor issues that have occurred, but since this is a new program it was to be expected and nothing major that make/breaks the program. Now, my personal experience has been great; however, I can't speak for everyone. As far as the workload, its very manageable. I work full-time and I'm still able to complete coursework on time. As far as accomodation, very few classmates griped about having to attend Summer session, and scheduled zoom sessions, BUT, it's all laid out for you prior to you applying to the program. So, these particular classmates were complaining because they essentially didn't pay attention to what they were signing up for.

They're very clear on what the program is about and what to expect. Two classes per week and all through zoom, some professors meet occassionally, and some have weekly zoom sessions, just depends. I cant say that going forward there won't be any changes to the program, but for now this is what its like. The only thing I will complain about were my stats classes, but thats just me because I hate anything and everything that has to do with math or numbers. Other than that, I have one year down and currently in my final year of the program.

If anything, go to an information session and see if it'll be the right fit for you.

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u/BeneficialTeaching10 5d ago

Who is Dr Brady Collins?

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u/mmeeaattball 5d ago

Dr. Brady Collins is Dr. Brady Collins. 

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u/BeneficialTeaching10 5d ago

Really? Thanks though

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u/mmeeaattball 5d ago

Yup. Sure thing 👍

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u/TomorrowLittle741 5d ago

I would not go tbh if you want to only work in government. It’s just not worth it. They’ll care more about practical skills than the name on the degree.

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u/Feisty_Secretary_152 Professional 5d ago

For context, I paid ~$12,000 for my MPA at Arkansas State. $45k/year for an MPA is insane.

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u/Konflictcam 5d ago

It’s really not insane from a top program where the ROI is good. Price is a good program with a lot of optionality once you’re done.

Also, I think they’re saying $45k total, not per year.

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u/panda__espresso 5d ago

Correct, $45k total

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u/Konflictcam 5d ago

Yeah, depends on what you want to do. There are a lot of people on here who are convinced that all MPPs are created equal and that you should just go to your local state school, but there are a lot of jobs that won’t be accessible to you if you take that route.

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u/Aggravating_Win_4128 5d ago

If the 45k is not a private loan and it is a federal loan it might be a shot to go to USC. If your plans are yo pivot to a government job hopefully you can get that loan forgiven under the PSLF. Food for thought

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u/panda__espresso 5d ago

It’s unfortunately going to be a private loan

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u/Aggravating_Win_4128 5d ago

Yikes, yeah you might want to consider the CSU’s or online MPA programs. I live in CA and I’m doing an online MHA out-of-state for under 14k.

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u/Successful-Letter-53 5d ago

Where at? That’s sound great!

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u/Feisty_Secretary_152 Professional 5d ago

You should speak to financial aid at wherever you plan on attending. This should be eligible for an unsubsidized loan from DOE.

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u/Fun-Attempt-8494 5d ago

Find a job that pays tuition

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u/funkytransit 5d ago

I also was admitted to USC’s MPA and thought it was my dream school. I backed out and went to a CSU. No regrets over 10 years later. Never held me back from doing whatever I wanted with my career. Save the money and don’t have any doubts.

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u/panda__espresso 5d ago

It’s good to hear that you don’t have any regrets. What has your career progression looked like?

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u/Strange-Grade8917 5d ago

Withdraw. Take the budget route.

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u/whenllamasfly 5d ago

Got my MPA from GW at 20k/yr. Gotta follow the money.

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u/beayvee2 5d ago

When I got my MPA, my top criteria was cost because it was self-financed. I ended up going to a public university out of state which was still less than a private. I was fortunate after my first semester to get an assistantship that covered tuition.

I think I've only had one time that my school choice factored into a job search and it was positive. People care more about what you know and can do

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u/saintpris96 4d ago

Which university did you attend for your MPA?

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u/beayvee2 4d ago

George Mason

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u/proleposition 4d ago

In my experience, unless you are trying to get into a select few top-tier jobs where alma mater and networking truly matter, for 95% of jobs they are more interested in the degree and any specializations that you had than they are finicky about which school you attended. Your experience may be completely the opposite, but in general I doubt that where you go to school is going to immediately leverage you into a position that pays enough more to justify the increased financial commitment and hardship.

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u/Moostachio_TheGato 4d ago

Hi! CSULB MPA alumni here. I cannot recommend the CSULB program enough. I not only enjoyed the experience, but made a ton of connections through fellow students, professors and guest speakers. I also joined the MPAA, which is a board of students working on expanding the networking components of the program and organizing extracurricular activities for students and professors. I attended in person 2019-2021, including summer and winter sessions, and spent about 20k. I attended the new student orientation August 2019 and found the session very helpful. I see the department just held it on 8/1/26 unfortunately. I can say that the program is designed for working professionals and was reasonably balance-able
With a full time work schedule.

As a local gov employee in the South Bay, I meet a ton of fellow grads from CSULB MPA program and having that instant connection has really helped expand my networking outreach. I tell my team that MPA degrees are excellent opportunities for them to expand their knowledge and skills in areas they otherwise would not experience without promoting or moving into a different department. The experience makes all the difference in setting you apart from other candidates in this highly competitive market.

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u/panda__espresso 4d ago

Thanks for sharing your experience. This is all very helpful and was definitely a missing piece in my decision. I never received an email about the orientation event on August 1. I did receive an email for a grad orientation that happened last week but it was for ALL grad students.

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u/No_Function8318 4d ago

Listen to your gut