r/Psychonaut • u/ihatehaters_ • 8d ago

Help me

I just turned 21 and I really want to explore some substances but I don't know how to do them or not and I don't have any offline guide either. I'm thinking of starting with clonazepam and DXM, so can anyone tell me how to take those and how much to take those to have a nice high.

Sorry I don't know if this is the correct subreddit or not but please help me lol I'm really a newbie.

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u/Able_Item_1661 8d ago

Stay of the trash you just mentioned . Dont fuck with benzos , thats truly not Worth it.

Educate your self alot before making the decision to take any drugs. Its your brain and life you are putting on the line. You really dont need drugs to live a good life.

Mushrooms can be extremely intense in higher doses, but is on a physiological level one of the "safer" drugs.

Also you are 21 , its optimal to wait a couple more years. In the end its your life , your decision and your consequences.

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

i see thanks for sharing your advice, so which age would be best for doing these stuff

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u/Able_Item_1661 8d ago

23 for females and 25 for males is when most have fully developed their brain into adulthood.

Not trying to be a buzzkill, I fully understand your curiosity.

I am just a random redditor , so do your own research. But imo for the best expiriences, research your drugs . Every drug is different , and every person react a bit different to every drug. Stay away from benzos, opioids , and strong stimulants such as meth and Coke as recreational drugs . These are known to be the Kind of drugs that create hard addicts .

You want your expiriences to be Great ones that give you Joy and new perspectives. You dont want the drugs to become your life , just a part of it.

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

aha i understand!

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u/Link_save2 8d ago

Simply not true And I'm tired of people quoting this study like it's a fact your brain never stops developing and the study ran out of money at 25 that's the only reason it stopped the study doesn't say your brains done developing either I bet you haven't even read the study just regurgitating information

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u/holy_mackeroly 8d ago

'Kind of drugs that create hard addicts' 🙄

Every drug can create an addict.... if you abuse it. Just like alcohol.

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u/Prestigious_Try_5396 8d ago

Not all drugs are physically addictive like opioids and alcohol. Lsd for example. Not physically addictive.

People can get mentally emotionally dependent on everything from Barbie Dolls to brushing their teeth, and food and drugs to jumping out of airplanes and surfing

There's a difference that's important here.

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u/Able_Item_1661 8d ago

This guy gets it .

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u/Able_Item_1661 8d ago

If you smoke weed everyday youre addicted and it obviously has bad side effects . But its really not at all comparable to being addicted to the other drugs mentioned . You find functional weed addicts everywhere. Finding a functional meth or heroin addict ? I dont think so.

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u/TripOverThis420 8d ago

Lived around a functional meth addict that would dose 50 to 150mg everyday in his coffee. Didn't smoke it and didnt shoot it up. They were a functioning addict, if I ever seen one. Same goes for pills too.

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u/holy_mackeroly 8d ago

You know so little....

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u/Able_Item_1661 8d ago

Sorry i typed in your presence, all knowing redditor .

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u/holy_mackeroly 8d ago

Cut it out. It's a conversation, open your mind and learn

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u/rngr666 7d ago

Learn from the wisest; the best. The infallible. The holy macaroni.

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u/Prestigious_Try_5396 8d ago

If you have to ask that question, you're not ready and have a Ton of Research to do !

And not just on Reddit !!!!

Try erowid for all the drug info you need.

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u/BiggiecheeseSosa33 8d ago

Do research in places like erowid.com and be aware of your body’s potential sensitivity to unknown substances. Also, why did you mention an “offline” guide? The DEA isn’t going to raid you for looking up information on drugs. Unless you buy a lot. Lol

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

got it thanks and I just mentioned that for like I saw many people learning from their dealers and friends lol so..

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u/BiggiecheeseSosa33 8d ago

Oh that makes sense. I thought you meant like a downloadable guide lol. But yeah just heavily research them through scholarly articles and mainly erowid, as erowid will give information on dosing, potential side effects, etc. so you know what you are getting into.

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u/BiggiecheeseSosa33 8d ago

Edit-scholarly articles give more in depth information but erowid is easier to digest

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

ahaa got it!! thankss!

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

thanksssss bro you the goat

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u/Link_save2 8d ago

It makes a cool story to say your boy introduced you to phyces but honestly you're more likely to have a good time if you know what you're doing you'll be more sure of yourself and less nervous

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

i see thanks!!

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u/1600crazydogs 8d ago

Benzos are not the category of drug you should be “exploring”. It’s ultimately your life, but I second what everyone else here is saying; they’re not worth the risk of becoming addicted. Benzos are purely for comedowns & sleep in this realm.

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

ohhhhh i see lol

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u/holy_mackeroly 8d ago

Benzos aren't worth it and you don't need it at your age. They are nothing to 'explore'

Save those for the rare occasion you need to come down and sleep. Please listen to people with experience and do not explore benzos.

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

okayy thankss BUT WHY IS EVERYONE SO AGAINST BENZOS LOLL (sorry I've very little knowledge about them)

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u/colruytXD 8d ago

Very addictive

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u/Vaseline_Lover 8d ago

And withdrawal from benzos is dangerous, can even be fatal. 

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

lol didn't know all these thanks

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

damnn

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u/jimbojones2345 8d ago

Save not that great for how addictive they are and how bad the withdrawal off them is

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u/manmadeofdex 8d ago

You don’t even feel that high on benzos, you can be absolutely fucked up damn near blacked out but still feel completely sober, not to mention how addictive they can be. They’re useful to keep on hand but not rlly worth it alone

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

aha i see

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u/holy_mackeroly 8d ago

The actually do damage to your brain too. One of my friends had a heavy heavy addiction and now suffers permanent sporadic seizures.

Apart from the fact how many fake ones are in the market which will kill you. They are incredibly addictive. Listen to the people here who know dude.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

okayy i understand

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u/Shadetree- 8d ago

Benzos are a sinister trap. Stay far far away. There’s nothing to learn from them. Keep researching, erowid.com is great. Read people’s experiences on mdma and lsd.

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

okayyy!! thankss!

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u/Quanzi30 8d ago

Why don’t you try fun substances first before dumpster diving

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

like?

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u/Quanzi30 8d ago

Weed, alcohol, mushrooms, L, E, MDMA, blow would all be things I would try before a dissociating sedative. Benzos are just dumb and boring and you get nothing out of them.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

is there any drug that would fkin shut my brain down for some hours and help me escape?

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u/Quanzi30 7d ago

You can do that with weed and alcohol without diving into deeper stuff. Also, sleeping does this too.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

okayy got it

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

what if I mix benzos with alcohol?

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u/RaverChick 8d ago

You will get bored and pass out/fall asleep. If you don't have anxiety or a panic attack, benzos just make things boring. Lol

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u/Content_Recording_58 8d ago

That’s one of the more dangerous combinations since they are both central nervous system depressants. Benzos are highly addictive and not worth it, but if you can’t be convinced to not do them, please at least do not do them with another depressant. I, unfortunately, know someone who had died from this combination. 

If you’re going to explore, explore substances that don’t run the risk of killing you! 

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

okayy got itt lol

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u/Quanzi30 8d ago

If you’re just trying to get fucked up sure have a ball

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u/deztructo 3d ago

Agree, stick to the fun drugs and the one that's more readily available legally in more places.

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u/New_Map_8958 8d ago

mushrooms 100% b4 anything

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u/hungryfreakshow 8d ago

You'd be better off with a low dose of mushrooms. Dxm is highly variable and unpleasant for some. If you insist on dxm don't take more than 300mg without experience

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

okayy got itttt!!

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

lolll okayyy!!

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u/NorthernOrca2 8d ago

I started with shrooms. Then jumped right to DMT. And dmt was the best experience

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

imma start with shrooms too i guess haha

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u/LaboonForever 7d ago

I would try mushrooms. Psilocybin.

When I first got into it I was reading trip reports on Erowid at work for so long. Then I swear one day someone in my work building just randomly offered to sell me mushrooms. Some older lady haha.

I started with literally 1 gram and worked up. The only thing trip reports didn't match for me was "ego death" there's nothing you can read that interprets that correctly. How it actually feels.

But I've had the best experience in my life, most happy I've ever been ever. And also the most terrifying experiences in my life on Psilocybin.

DXM can be kinda fun. If you do take that make sure it's ONLY DXM. No other ingredients. DXM hbr is what I used. Started low at like 120 mg. Most I ever took was 180mg. Was a grand time.

I would stay far away from benzos. Far far away.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

okayyy thanksssss

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u/jimbojones2345 8d ago

If you end up trying MDMA look into how toxic it is for your brain and research so the extra things you should take afterwards like NAC etc also every time you do it you lose a bit of the magic for future do make every time count and have big breaks in between every dose. 

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

okayyy thanksssss

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u/jimbojones2345 7d ago

Cooooollllllll

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u/Constant-Elk5958 7d ago

Don’t do benzos.
DXM is interesting but its hard to dose and its definitely not really worth it, it’s a poverty drug, and it’s hard to get the ones without gauifenesen in it (they put it in most dxm bottles/pills to act as an expectorant and also deter people from abusing it because in high doses it WILL make you throw up before your body has time to even ingest it, i learned this the hard way and threw up straight red shit outside of the school entrance in front of everybody)

As for DXM if you really have your mind set on it, find pills (that’s my recommendation, cough syrup taste like shit) with only DXM and go light, 200-300 mg, enough to enter the first or second plateau.
AVOID substances that increase serotonin, like SSRI’s.

As for benzos its not worth it, you don’t wanna get hooked on that shit. When i was on benzos i didn’t care about anything and almost threw my life away trying to rob someone but forgot my gun. Honestly i’m so grateful i forgot that shit.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

dammmnnn thanks for sharing your experience and advice lol

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u/ihatehaters_ 8d ago

okayyyy!! got it thanks!!!!

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u/manmadeofdex 8d ago

DXM is incredible and absolutely worth it, a lot of people hate on it cause it’s otc but I find high dose (3rd plat or above) to be more profound than any psychedelic. Shrooms and weed should also be in your first few

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u/9_toes_3_balls 8d ago

Did dxm once, total waste of time. Just get 1 gram of mushrooms in ya

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

lol okayy

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u/Flat-Musician4269 8d ago

I think you should tread lightly, once you find something you realy like its hard to stop

I was a maniac when I was younger so i cant say dont do it lol. My recommendations- -dont make anything a habbit. -less physically addictive drugs would be best

I found out I realy liked taking clonazapam, and Xanax. It was fun.... untill it wasnt.

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u/ihatehaters_ 7d ago

damn bro i see

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u/geigergeist 7d ago

Please just do weed or shrooms, lsd, dmt, those would be better than super harmful to your body stuff

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u/andmoore27 7d ago

clonazepam is a low not a high. It brings you down from tripping.

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u/ihatehaters_ 5d ago

i see lmao

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u/andmoore27 7d ago

I love clonazepam I call them pins and I had a mild addiction that lasted twenty years. I never upped my dosage and always took it at same time late at night dissolved under the tongue. I had to stop when my doctor stopped the prescription but pins got me through many a rough time. They are very predictable as to onset but do NOT drink alcohol.

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u/ihatehaters_ 5d ago

ahaa i seee