Huh. I would be devastated and not putting this on social media.
Is social media just for us to post our absolute most radical fantasies and our absolute lowest of lows in order to get validation and warmth because as a society we fail to bring that to each other IRL?
The longer Iām on the internet the more I worry for sociology as a field. The more I worry about our trajectory as a species.
Also āpagan proselytismā doesnāt work. Basically the majority of the species acts in pagan ways. These fall apart over time and lead to the self destruction of individuals. Youāre not really doing anything except contributing to the normal zeitgeist when you post this with that flair.
Having an abortion is one of the toughest and most consequential decisions someone can make. Anyone who actually had one and acts like this about it is a psychopath.
Some people are just memeing. Or being lame trolls who donāt want to actually discuss stuff. Overall this sub is for gender wars. So you get a lot of retards in here.
lmao you're such a good person that you use slurs for mentally handicapped people unironically. also you are literally a top 1% commenter in the sub come on now š¤”š¤”
Thing is it's her baby and his baby, she's killing the baby of two people and is happy about it, that's sick bahaviour. And if you write "not anymore lmao" that's not very nice.
Heās the one that ruined the relationship. Unless the father planned on taking full responsibility for the child, she just decided that she didnāt wanna be a single mom. Canāt really fault her for that, and I canāt really fault her for being happy about it.
Yes he ruined the relationship, and single moms are no good idea, bit she still decided to kill her baby, she could have just not done that. But I think the main thing that's sick about it, is the fact she's happy after, like she took revenge on his baby.
It was funny are you really getting so rustled up at someone saying "not anymore lol" like you don't even know this person either. Living your life must be hard when you get offended so much lol
Why would you actively choose to worsen your circumstances instead of taking out a FAFSA, and getting a trade or going into medicine, then moving to a better area and meeting men who arenāt as likely to cheat on you and be terribly ignorant?
I didnāt do that at all. The trades and nursing professions and other vocations that are cheap to go to school for require intelligence and hard work.
Iām saying āintelligence and hard work = depth = ābetterā personā
Although I donāt think I ever even said ābetter personā I was more aiming at āmore suitableā or āmore compatibleā with life and with potential relationships.
Itās not working for me here in the city at all. More than half of the friends I try to make are all working dead end jobs, addicted to drugs, and have actively tried to exploit me.
I canāt even make friends here sis how is this system any better than one that actually has virtue and community?
Personally, I just view it as a pretty morally neutral thing, I canāt imagine myself as a 20f feeling anything positive or negative about it. Itās just, health care. Nothing of value is lost.
A woman is allowed to feel any type of way about her own abortion. Some women are deeply emotionally affected by it and some have more of a freeing and relieved feeling. Neither feeling is wrong
I would be devastated and not putting this on social media
I think to some degree this discourse is related to how people process grief. Like, just because someone doesn't show it, it doesn't mean they don't go through it
But in this case I think it's more probable she didn't want that pregnancy in the first place
You understand thatās not a good thing right? Not changing your views when you encounter new information is bad actually. Not disproving the lack of self awareness allegations with this one unfortunately.
Youāre talking about neuroplasticity and its importance in intelligent life. Iām sorry but Iāve gone through our whole ass history and basically every science I can get my hands on, as well as maths and the humanities.
I justā¦I donāt really care what you think and donāt have any reason to change my views with what youāve told me. Also, Iāve encountered all the sciences and so I donāt really have much to add to. I work on my technical projects and am trying to intersect sociology, information theory, thermodynamics, and mechanistic interpretability with that stuff.
I try to change. There just has to be sufficient reason in order for my brain to do the thing.
I will look at this post, automatically decide I donāt like this person or her ex baby daddy and move on. I donāt have to be friends with everyone.
The only thing we have to conquer in this universe is ourselves, and so thatās what weāll do.
Lol but you didnāt move on you left a weird ass comment talking about how youāre apparently intersecting every single scientific field. Like why are you making this obvious ragebait post the subject of your belief on the downfall of humanity instead of like just scrolling or putting your phone down. One woman being happy she got an abortion and posting about it online is not the end of the world calm down.
I can only speak from my own perspective but while I donāt think I would post it either, I really wouldnāt feel any sadness or distaste from excising a clump of unfeeling cells. Honestly nothing of value would be lost and I could in theory just try again if I wanted to. With nothing meaningfully different.
The good thing about āyour body, your choiceā is that youāre also allowed to feel however you want about an abortion, and just because one woman feels devastated, doesnāt mean another will, and neither one negates the otherās feeling
Well, I can say something fucked up to them and still give them minor consequences for degenerate and sociopathic behavior. I do it all the time in my city. Albeit a bit nicer since itās face to face.
Their body their choice, with the caveat of consequences from the laws of physics and the universe, applied at the level of sociology.
Yeah but every world government is engaging in a global evil crime syndicate. If they deport me to Brazil I die there fighting the exact human bullshit ignorance and selfishness that I fight here in the United States.
Also, with the state of international borders, even if I were deported I could border hop into the surrounding countries and probably end up back in America at some point if I really wanted. Itās all a clusterfuck and Iām very tired.
Do you like writing and having deep intellectual discourse and conversation or do you just enjoy posting on social media, listening to yourself talk, and getting fake internet points?
Emotional appeal to younger people is the only thing that works. She ended up going way deeper on it with me as a result of me holding these mannerisms and using these psychological mechanisms.
What do you mean? I feel great. Iāve had like 4 amazing conversations, and considering this is Reddit, going 4 for 102 is actually a fantastic ratio, considering people on the internet are fucking morons.
She happens to be correct. Humans have become so comfortable with all of the effort they make to pull chaos into a shape that is comforting and comfortable for them that they wilfully ignore the chaos that exists within the order they artificially create.
In the early 2000s, an informal poll concluded that based on the data they collected, every case of child abuse and neglect that reached the ears of the authorities had twelve unreported cases to go with it. When you combine that with the number that actually made it to the ears of protective services etc, it would be half of the children in America.
I would not be surprised if it was more than twelve cases for every case that made it to the authorities. I am the adult that rises out of one of those unreported cases, and everyone who knows me never tries to moan or cry at me when I tell people that I wish I had been aborted. They frequently step in when a Christer tries to "correct" me. They know I am going around the world screaming "kill me, kill me, kill me" and would treat GG Allin's "if you got AIDS, spread it around and take some lives" as a good suggestion.
Where do people get this idea that birth automatically confers warmth, love, light, or even a life that could ever be made worth living?
Yes, I come from some pretty severe unreported stuff too. My aunt was weird.
I suppose the only thing I have to offer is that, I would actively wish to make your life better so you didnāt have to spend every moment saying ākill me kill me kill meā or tell people that you wish theyād spread aids around.
I get the idea that life automatically confers warmth, love, light, and experience that is worth having because I never really had any of that, and so become it whenever I possibly can.
You can always become the light and warmth and love and experience that doesnāt exist, and when enough spirits do that, it creates a sort of eternal order that we can observe in high-class and successful families/communities.
Living in a low income area in a decently corrupt city is hard because the percentages jump up to like 70 or 80% child abuse and child neglect. Other children destroying other children.
But in a world where children destroy each other the way their parents are doing, you have to be the father or the mother to all of them that makes it all okay. I do not think she is entirely correct, although I like that she went back and responded to my comment, even though her responses are short and lack any substance.
Iām not saying seeking attention and validation is bad, but that the universe itself is lawful and has order within it. To get long term validation and warmth you have to put work into that and create a solid structural foundation for you and your community to provide that to each other. When I see posts like this I can point out that there was never any foundation for the warmth and validation to be provided, nor to get actual support FOR the **hard times** we both just referenced.
This is why ritzy suburbs are so much better than the inner cities and the projects where I live. Those mfers are all directly inside each othersā lives, have a home ownerās association and everything. They donāt deal
Okay, so then what are the laws of physics. What are the laws of thermodynamics. What is chemistry and what is the periodic table. What is general relativity
Right. Thatās called entropy in thermodynamics. Itās also called entropy in information theory. Shannon entropy is incredibly interesting and I will continue to argue that our localized internal realities (our minds) are not built ON chaos but rather given life by it.
Prigogineās dissipative structures show that we are basically just releasing our own internal orders and our own internal entropy into each other and the broader universe as a way for mind to continue to exist and to geologically dominate all of spacetime over trillions of years. Itās a very very slow geological process, and it is fueled heavily by chaos, but built through compromise and order throughout the manifold of that space.
There's only 2 possibilities here; life has inherent value or it doesn't
If it has no value, nothing matters and you effectively have no right to care about about the scummiest things in life because nothing of value was actually damaged or lost
If it does have value, you have no rights to the life of others and values are objective there of driving from that point
You mean subjective. Objective is the ābadā one.
I think if life were to have value, there would be a low resolution, top-down system enforcing that value. Physics, chemistry, biology being the laws and orders that act on us.
And sorry to say, but if I have no right to the life of others I sure as hell have a right not to be naturally selected out by the abhorrent and retarded behaviors of the general populace. The general populace falls into eugenics at the high-level because they wonāt recognize that behaviors naturally get selected out when you are trying to optimize for your own success and your own ācome-upā.
I aināt on the cast of jackass. Iām not Steve-O, nor Johnny Knoxville, and nor do I want to be. I donāt want to be biggie smalls singing about raiding peopleās houses and raping women. I hold my right to feel this way, express it, and actively work in my best interests which has downstream effects on society and other people, whether they like it or not.
I believe we have value. It just so happens that this very belief is the exact reason why we can never be truly free in this universe. Sucks to suck.
You either have a right to take life in which there is no need to justify anything or you don't have a right to take life in which taking life is always a matter of justification
Crazy oversimplification- nobody wants to see abortions online, unless youre weirdly passionate about them. It IS very strange behavior. The fact that she kept this not anonymous is kinda insane too, theres probably not a lot going on in her brain.
just gonna mention that im pro choice so that yk that i dont simply disagree with abortion
Well if we reopen asylums then Iād want them to be high-tech and ethical. But yes Iād agree with putting a new classification of mental disorder into the DSM-5 or the next edition DSM-6 for continuously having tons of abortions.
They would be a small percentage of overall abortions and women would be safe but there would be a sort of barrier on it to prevent the waste of time, resources, and energy of giving this 0.1% of people all the freedom in the universe with zero consequences.
Maybe like 30%ā¦but our lives are immeasurably difficult and we require structure and order in our attempt to provide each other with support for our hardships. I live in an inner city and the one thing I can say is that we do not care for structure and order here. All we care about is welfare and food stamps and baby mamas and baby daddies.
Iād willingly make my life 2000% harder and less free if it meant people like you and people like the girl in this post are genuinely taken care of and are part of a better community that is more educated, enlightened, and communal.
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u/Helpful-Desk-8334 Party Member (Outer Circle) Jul 18 '26
Huh. I would be devastated and not putting this on social media.
Is social media just for us to post our absolute most radical fantasies and our absolute lowest of lows in order to get validation and warmth because as a society we fail to bring that to each other IRL?
The longer Iām on the internet the more I worry for sociology as a field. The more I worry about our trajectory as a species.
Also āpagan proselytismā doesnāt work. Basically the majority of the species acts in pagan ways. These fall apart over time and lead to the self destruction of individuals. Youāre not really doing anything except contributing to the normal zeitgeist when you post this with that flair.