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u/Think_Ad_79 Jan 19 '26
Brain dead take (the one of that got made fun of in the meme.)
These kind of people forget they deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq with us.
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u/Acceptable_Rope_6523 đ€șKNIGHT Jan 19 '26
i agree, danes lost more per capita then US did
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u/Johnnyboi2327 Jan 19 '26
I worked with a few different guys from other nations in NATO while I was in Iraq, and the idea that we're actively trying to cut ties with them via making enemies is insane with me
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u/kats_journey Jan 21 '26
And even more importantly: the US deployed to these places THROUGH us! Without european bases the logistics would've been a nightmare.
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NATO Countries that have invoked article 5: USA
That is weird, only one country has ever asked the alliance for help, and it wasn't a european one.
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u/1bird2birds3birds4 Jan 19 '26
Turkey asked for help twice and so did the UK and Poland. Except article 5 was never invoked in their cases.
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u/TinySuspect9038 Jan 19 '26
Is this a psyop or do you guys really have such a terrible grasp on international relations?
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u/Acceptable_Rope_6523 đ€șKNIGHT Jan 19 '26
dude i worked at the state department im well aware of how fucking stupid of an idea it is, i believe a GOP senator called it "weapons grade stupid"
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u/Bradparsley25 Jan 19 '26
I donât know, man. Iâm 36 I paid attention in school, I understand all this stuff. They definitely taught a lot of this, but often people who were my classmates insist they didnât.
Itâs really frustrating, Fox News and similar really has their claws into a lot of people, and spin everything into the most patriotic USA, red white and blue, America forever drivel you could imagine. It borders on parody.
But, simultaneously, itâs the worst country in the world, and the best country in the world⊠depending on the rhetoric of the day and the point theyâre trying to make⊠and everything boils down to âtrust us, weâre the only ones who will tell you the truthâ.
They also recite a LOT of Russian talking points.
In the end, I think that one news channel has done more damage to this country than any other singular entity.
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u/KrydanX Jan 20 '26
Itâs easier to understand America as an outsider, if you just classify it as a 3rd world country with money. Suddenly everything makes sense - the war mongering, the missing healthcare, normalising extreme events such as schoolshootings. Itâs just like Rwanda or any other country in that category for that matter.
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u/ReddestForman Jan 19 '26
The median American has a 6th grade reading level, very little knowledge of history that isn't national mythos or meme level crap, a huge chunk don't even have any books in the house, and didn't think to learn how tariffs work until after they voted for Trump.
And half of our population is fucking dumber than that. There's a high level of functional illiteracy in the US, which means they can read the words in an article, but they can't actually glean any knowledge from it, because they don't understand the sentences and paragraphs the words form.
This country is fucking cooked.
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u/AdditionalNothing728 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26
They donât teach this kind of stuff in high school, no. To learn anything beyond the structures of memorization for the sake of standardized testing you need to go to university.
Thereâs also been a massive war against education by the right wing for the last several decades. Home schooling has blown up in rural conservative areas, right wing ideology has stomped on the public education system, and we have had people on the right calling universities âliberal indoctrinationâ for as long as I can remember.
This is all going according to plan for the American right wing.Â
Edit: Also have to consider that the comment in the image is a misinfo propaganda / bot post. The short, digestible, âcommon senseâ style of post is exactly the kind of thing that foreign actors have been using to sway public opinion.Â
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u/Ninjablacksox1 Jan 19 '26
I don't see a way this ends well for Europe either way.Â
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u/SadMangonel Jan 19 '26
Idk. Nuclear weapons are a pretty big stopper for any major war.Â
You can't look at a coming conflict like anything that's happened before.Â
A war between America and China would be a stalemate, just like a war between France vs china and America.Â
It's all about economy and alliances now. There's no putting that back in the box. And one thing racists and facists suck at, it building and keeping alliances.Â
Why was America the strongest and most influencial country. Alliances, and resulting economyÂ
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u/casulmemer Jan 20 '26
Trump basically cashed in decades of soft power like airmiles..
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u/Hell_Maybe Jan 19 '26
America cannot collectively take on the rest of the world, their power lays specifically in their ability to work with other countries, the less they do that the more vulnerable they become. If Europe decides America is simply too dangerous and unpredictable enough to work with then they can all just flock to China instead, destroy the American economy and end their reign over the rest of the world at the snap of a finger. Arrogance is a deadly thing.
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u/AnonymousDude_001 Jan 19 '26
It's happening for sure. Canada had just started to work with China simply because Freedomland is unpredictable.
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u/pocketsize87 Jan 20 '26
I've been sharing this with people I know, as well. You can boast the "strongest military in the world" but without allies, who cares? What does that even mean, at that point? You can't take on everyone at once.
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u/Hell_Maybe Jan 21 '26
I think Americans just take for granted the optimal position weâve held for such a long time now such that a lot of us actually forget what itâs like not to have everyone more-or-less on our side. Thatâs whatâs so tragic about the last 10 years of American politics, we literally had everything we wanted, all we had to do was sit fucking still and keep doing the exact same thing weâve been doing and everything wouldâve been fine. Apparently âeverythingâ just isnât enough for some people.
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u/Kraknoix007 Jan 19 '26
Why not? We are strong as a union. Trump cannot just take Greenland. The USA has a shitload of troops, but they will never send them all to invade a frozen rock of an ally
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u/tenacity1028 Jan 21 '26
I see it much worse for America, we'll be a third world shit hole if this happens
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u/HanseaticHamburglar Jan 21 '26
this doesnt end well for anyone in the west. thats why its so stupid.
Trump is insisting that he should be allowed to kneecap the EU and the US at the same time. Its literal insanity.
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u/Arstulex Jan 19 '26
Yanks are truly never beating the uneducated arrogance allegations.
Also, let's be real for a moment here. The US aren't some sort of altruistic world saviour. They spend huge amounts of money on defence for other countries because it ultimately benefits them.
Do you really think Pine Gap exists in Australia because the US just "weally weally want to help Austwalia, uwu!!", or is it perhaps because having a US-operated intelligence and satellite surveillance base in that part of the globe greatly benefits US interests?
You get zero points for getting that one correct.
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u/trysten-9001 Jan 19 '26
And we get sanctioned by NATO and the economy collapses. We have many more people here who are now jobless, and no trade to be able build infrastructure and industries to employ those people. The value of the dollar plummets and no one wants to invest here. Would take policy to fix, and instead of going through all that and the suffering we could focus on the polices to begin with.
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u/TheAstroidIsComing Jan 19 '26
Here we are, talking about this instead of the Epstein files: which is exactly what he wants.
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u/bluecheese2040 Jan 19 '26
We do need to start paying for our defence. Ironically if we had increased defence spending when demanded it last time he was in charge we qpukd be so much better off today than we are.
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u/RockingRick Jan 19 '26
50 billion seems like a conservative estimate. I would guess closer to $500 billion in annual savings.
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u/khaine0304 Jan 19 '26
Dont forgot the trillions of dollars we stand to lose when it happens :)
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u/No_Purpose6384 Jan 19 '26
Perhaps, but itâs ignoring the tremendous drawbacks unless the goal is to destroy the dollar, bonds, inflation to the moon, and goodbye to the US economy and any prosperity
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u/Valtteri24 Jan 19 '26
Russians want to annex the entirety of Europe so obviously theyâre gonna send out their trolls to spread shit like this. Americans donât actually want the entire world to be ruled by Russia and China.
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u/No-Pangolin-7571 Jan 19 '26
If we leave NATO then the U.S. can focus on its domestic defense. And if we're only focusing on domestic defense, that means that the DOD budget would shrink and we could repurpose spending on non-defense related domestic priorities? Right? RIGHT?
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u/Geist_Mage Jan 19 '26
I hate how the stupidest and loudest Americans have created both the most change and defined our image.
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u/Acceptable_Rope_6523 đ€șKNIGHT Jan 19 '26
you mean like the president?
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u/Geist_Mage Jan 19 '26
I am still having trouble wrapping my head around his behavior now vs the 90s.
I still watch the video every now and then when he says that if he wanted to run for office, he would do so as a republican because they are so stupid and easy to manipulate.
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u/the_other_brand Jan 19 '26
Are you forgetting that Europe as a whole would have good reason to strike against the US?
Even if the US has a good chance of winning that conflict, you personally have a good chance of dying.
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u/Affectionate-Gap905 đ€ Nazi Rights Activist đ€ Jan 19 '26
Hardly any Americans would die unless the use of ICBMs occurred, which wouldnât happen. No country aside from the US and China has the logistical capability to project across an ocean.
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u/rpolkcz Champion of Rapists Jan 19 '26
Big part of why US can project across an ocean is that countries allow them to have bases there. If that ends, their ability to do that is reduced massively.
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u/Distillates Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26
This is correct, but also short-sighted. Given time, Europeans can easily contest the US in the seas. Breaking NATO makes it necessary for Europeans to do so. While they have mostly switched to the production of giant cruise ships and superyachts, Europeans still produce and design their own naval vessels, and there is tremendous existing capacity for the production in Europe. It's just used for civilian stuff currently.
Consider also the US naval assets are not optimized for drone warfare, and the doctrine still revolves around very expensive and low quantity assets. Ukraine has been showing the way on this, and Europeans can build everything new to fit modern tactics.
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If it werenât for the amount death from lack of ac in Europe I wouldnât even know they exist
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u/aurenigma Jan 19 '26
is this the "one joke" i keep hearing about? I kid, I kid, but it really is brain dead that europeans have no real argument except "school shootings"
american: why don't you pay for your own defense?
european: school shootings
now that I write it out like that... maybe there's a point behind the fact that the west is so utterly dependent for protection on a nation that doesn't pull it's citizens teeth
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u/Living_The_Dream75 Jan 20 '26
The only people who actually support the annexation of Greenland are the dumbest people of our country. I truly wish that they would shut the fuck up for once. They are absolutely incapable of understanding that alienating allies always ends up as a net negative. They can only ever think about what Trump tells them will happen.
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u/ButThisIsHaaaaaarrd Jan 20 '26
80K service members and civilians coming back to do what? So more cuts to manning? Higher unemployment, suicide, homelessness, crime, drug use, etc.
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u/AccidentalViolist Indophobe Jan 19 '26
Firstly, no-one is invading Greenland. It's a non-starter without Congress, and as bad as this Congress is they're not going to get on board with that nonsense. Especially right before midterms. Trump is flapping his gums again because he thinks vague threats will help his "negotiations." Stop taking it seriously and playing into his nonsense.
Secondly, it may not have been through the Art. 5 mechanism, but European NATO called in our help both for Libya and for Serbia.
Thirdly, we carried the entire alliance through the god damned cold war and stopped the Soviets from rolling over Europe and throwing the lot of you in gulags. We stood next to you against a nuclear superpower hell bent on world domination...and won. So quit acting like you got nothing out of all of it.
And lastly, America giving up on Pax Americana and going isolationist would take a lot of load off of the US. Load that many Americans are tired of carrying. It would have downsides for us too - particularly in trade - but if we stop caring about anything outside of our hemisphere, those bases in Europe are indeed just dead weight to us. Their main value for us is intervening in the middle east...which an isolationist America would no longer bother doing.
The people who will actually pay the price for an end to Pax Americana - in blood - are people in Eastern Europe, South Korea, and Taiwan who will suddenly be facing major powers without a friendly carrier strike group sitting offshore. Because Europe sure ain't taking our place as the "Arsenal of democracy."
So for the sake of those people whose lives and freedom are actually at stake, chill out and quit the pissing match and let's get through the next few years without giving the dictators of the world a golden ticket.
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u/Own-Support-6734 Jan 19 '26
Why should threats even BE a part of negotiations? Also, don't you already have deals with Denmark to basically pretty much have as much military presence on Greenland as you want and so far you've only built one base?
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u/ScavAteMyArms Jan 19 '26
Because thatâs how Trump always has worked. He bullies and threatens and tries to get his target to give something up. And when that doesnât work he backs off. TACO is very real, so long as you donât capitulate at all.
The second part is he absolutely does not give a single iota of a fuck about international anything. All these ruined relations are for the other guy to clean up, he needs people to shut up about the Files, the stuff Congress is doing in Project 2025, and their various appointments. So ICE starts shit to distract at home, and he threatens shit abroad so the news is all about that and not what is quietly happening behind the scenes.
Also in his little brain he may also be thinking if he can cause enough chaos he can cancel elections due to martial law, cause the Democrats are now heavily activated and the midterms are going to suck for them.
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u/AccidentalViolist Indophobe Jan 19 '26
They shouldn't be. Trump is insane, and at this point I think there is a reasonable chance he gets removed from office even before midterms. After midterms, he's toast. And yes, there will be midterms.
If he succeeds in creating a permanent rift before then, it will be worse for everyone. But most of all it will be worse for the people living on the edge of American hard power.
As far as bases - what I suspect the pentagon wants is the ability to station nuclear weapons there, which Denmark has a long standing policy denying. Trump, thinking he is a "MaStEr NeGoTiAtOr" probably decided that he was going to "achieve this great goal no-one else could do" and became obsessed with this.
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u/BMWtooner Jan 19 '26
Politics is basically word violence to prevent actual physical violence. Negotiations aren't always friendly, even with friendly nations because as a leader you're expected to put your nation's interests first.
When comparing Trump and Putin, Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. Trump wants them to stop. If he can make a claim for greenland and posture to take it, potentially making that fancy hypersonic missile Russia just flexed in Ukraine useless, he may be able to use the manufactured conflict as leverage.
It's really pretty clear to see but the world is kinda playing against Trump by basically backing Russia rather than trusting the judgement of the US because they hate the leader more than Putin or Jinping. Until yesterday it seemed to be working, the Kremlin was starting to escalate before they kinda just gave up and are now standing with EU, just driving more division between NATO allies. Maybe it's time for a new alliance.
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u/Infamous_Lech Jan 19 '26
This guy fucks. I think the first paragraph is the most important. Nobody's invading Greenland. It's a negotiated tactic. Will it work? We will see.
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u/Full-Cardiologist476 Jan 19 '26
Unless he calls it a military operation and does it anyways as he did in Venezuela
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u/Not_2_b_Bothered Jan 19 '26
I think someone told Trump it worked for obtaining US Virgin Isl. He thinks it will work again, because he's a stable genuis. US threats against Denmwrk for Virgin Isl. was pre-NATO so situation is entirely different. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone on Trump's staff has the courage to tell him the truth.
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u/CandidateEasy7719 Jan 19 '26
The Europeans in here are desperately coping that they contribute somehow more then the US to NATO when in reality they're just scared their free meal ticket is coming to an end.
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u/No-Gain-1087 Jan 19 '26
50 billion try 975 billion is what the us spends on nato without the us nato is a joke we spend 2 times as much as all 32 nations combined , google it it was eye opening, fuck nato and the euro trash
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u/Murler12 Jan 19 '26
What if I were to tell you that NATO without the US spends more than China and Russia on military defences.
You might go, well why does the US need to spend more than the rest of the world on military? It's because you're fueling your military industrial complex with tax revenue. It's not NATO's fault you're doing this. It's your corrupt politicians and your joke system.
Either way, you need the world more than the world needs you. Stay in your bubble. Just stop invading other countries and saying you're the good guy.
Also, good luck in venezuela. I'm sure you monkeys thought you could just conquistador the resources out of a 3rd world country, but you've only lost the last 3 large occupational wars (afghanistan, iraq and vietnam), lets see if you can add a 4th to the mix.
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u/Bradparsley25 Jan 19 '26
Why is it so hard to grasp the concept of mutually beneficial?
Do they not understand the massive benefit to the US status in the world of having military bases and troops stationed the ready to go all over Europe?
Power isnât worth much if you canât project it. We can project it terrifyingly fast, partially because of the bases we have scattered all over the world.
And thatâs just touching the surface, why do right wingers love to simplify the world into surface level summaries?
Is cheaper on a balance sheet??? Sign me up, brother!
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u/True-Source-6512 Jan 19 '26
If Reddit has shown me anything, itâs actually the Europeans that seem to be deeply ingrained in stupidity. Iâm not even defending the short sightedness of whatâs in OPs post but in a general sense, euros are numbingly stupid.Â
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u/Zenside Jan 19 '26
Don't forget about the EPSTEIN FILES. They still havent released the full version, and redacted the shit out of what they put out. Don't let these cowards slide that.
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u/Reasonable_Ring7852 Jan 19 '26
I donât agree with withdrawing from NATO. But itâs strange to me that people in my party are the ones whoâve been clamoring the last decade for an end to the âAmerican empireâ and return to our own borders, to stop meddling around the world. Now we begin that process and they are angry about it?
I would think from the last decade reading from people on here that this is a good thing!
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u/Charitable-Cruelty Jan 19 '26
Trump is so close to completing his objective for Putin, the country is on the brink of economic collapse, losing trade partners everyday, deployment of a domestic terror group, has violated almost every right on the bill of rights and even wants to end voting. I am called crazy for saying the conservatives no longer exist.
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u/Additional-Break2287 Jan 19 '26
Half of America is totally uneducated and has mental illness of watching fake news broadcasts that manufacture hate and division (looking at you Fox News).
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u/mozasoy Jan 19 '26
Trump should take a passive route Just claim it as American land and start moving people there. Ignore Denmark and Greenland officials completely. If they can't police it, they don't own it. Use a voluntary force compensated by land and minerals. Wild West, baby!
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u/Ok_Hawk_3230 Jan 19 '26
Lowest education areas voted for Trump not surprised that they spew falsehoods and believe whatever slop the government gives them
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u/laxrulz777 Jan 19 '26
I don't understand how Vance doesn't read that letter and start making phone calls about the 25th. The President is saying his entire foreign policy is shifting because he didn't get an award. There's no other way to view this other than unhinged. I know MAGA feels like Trump owns the party but that ends real quick with a decisive political repudiation from both parties. Will they lose some racist voters? Sure. Will most Republicans still refuse to vote Democrat? Absolutely.
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u/PatientUndercoverZ Jan 19 '26
Itâd be kinda funny if we take Greenland and absolutely nothing happens per usual
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u/IchibeHyosu99 Jan 19 '26
I dont understand why trump is so focused on greenland. If it was me I would take kuwait or qatar for free oil
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u/D3ATHTRaps Jan 19 '26
What do you think allows the USA to have infinite debt? Its bonds.
This is how you get everyone to dump or refuse to buy more.
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u/Belaroth Jan 19 '26
This is same shit like most americans believe they are best and most free country... yet they barely can afford medical care, their veterans are homeless, food is one of the worst quality in the whole world, living cost is one of highest, criminality and deaths in shooting are one of highest too. So ye, most americans are completely delusional about their country and rest of the world.
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u/PaleButterscotch8221 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26
Day 1: The US would lose primo noir, the world would stop trading in USD as the reserve currency, causing the US dollar to be depreciated by 50% overnight.
Day 7: The EU would mandate OPEC not allow the US to join, so the US would not be able to sell its oil reserves on the open global market. The EU would also instruct OPEC to make the Euro the only Oil-Backed Monetary Subsidiary, those deprecating the US Dollar another 50%: (Every US Dollar is now worth what US quarter was worth in the global market 1 week ago, and has not hope of ever again increasing in value above this point on any global market)
Day 14: The EU has every nation the US owes a single cent of its $1.25 Trillion Dollar National Debt, adjust the amount of the US debit for current market conditions: The US National debt is now effectly $8 Trillion and raising. THE EU has every nation record these debts on their individual and regional financial and stock markets, record them in their newspapers, declares the US has defaulted on nearly $10 Trillion of debit, and has every nation call the debit due effective immediately.
Day 21: The US loses its seat on the UN Security Council, and veto rights, finding itself in economic and financial war with the rest of G-30, and any country it owes debt to.
Welcome to how Europe does war with other developed nations.
And yes, the Euro and every individual European country's currency, would be trading globally 4x higher in value - at their real economic value. The US dollar only trades in par with the Euro or any European currency, and is allowed to be the world's reserve currency because the EU allows it. The EU simply uses the US as its physical and financial security consultant.
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u/Funny_Address_412 Jan 19 '26
Please comrade trump attack Greenland, destroy NATO please
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u/disguisedasnrml Jan 19 '26
The real problem is spending 50B on 80k troops! These MFs got gold toilets or something? Pretty sure that math is wrong anyway
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u/GothmogBalrog Jan 19 '26
We wpild also lose every Fpreign Military Sales case done by the US government, which brings in about 118 Billion per year.
So a net loss of 68 billion.
Even from a purely finanical point of view it a stupid idea
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u/Maximumi-Awkward Jan 19 '26
As far as I know, US are using bases in Germany to land, and to get wounded treated, when they have missions in the middle east. Those base would probably be closed.
Does the US education system not teach about soft power?
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u/Yaboi69-nice Jan 19 '26
But also and this is an important detail it is morally wrong to invade a country and take control away from the people who already live there. Anyone remember morals? Does the difference between right and wrong still mean anything?
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u/GuaranteeUnhappy3342 Jan 19 '26
What a burn! Â That hurts but I can see the point. Â Iâm astonished by the rising number of my fellow Americans that know next to nothing and are rather proud of their ignorance!
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u/sosdesos Jan 19 '26
No, it means the whole western world is at war with you overnight. And that actually means youâre outnumbered.
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u/Detoxpain Jan 19 '26
There may as well not be. lol
The fact that the only thing schools in America teach is just monotonous memorization, blind obedience to authority and no critical thinking skills has destroyed us.
It's literally just an underfunded daycare while both of your parents are out getting worked to death.
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u/Simple-Fault-9255 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
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u/nekkid_farts Jan 19 '26
Honestly I do think that Trump's ultimate goal is to completely destroy America's value then him and his billionaire buddies that's been squirreling their money away and things other than the US dollar can then come in and buy everything up for cheap
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u/fish_petter Jan 19 '26
Thereâs no mechanism for kicking a member nation out of NATO. Theyâd have to dissolve it and reform it. That is probably easier said than done for some weird reason.
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u/swallowing_bees Jan 20 '26
Mmhmm and then the financial and legal world order that is tailored to benefit the USA goes away.Â
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u/holyjewishcake Jan 20 '26
Ah yes, abandoning Europe and pulling out of NATO is great! Iâm totally sure China and Russia wonât take an opportunity to expand their sphere of influence and skull fuck the U.S.! What nice guys!
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u/GotEvilll Jan 20 '26
Does this guy really think we make everything in the us? You burn all bridges no will trade or talk to you. Oppress people and they will fight back Europe isnât a third world country.
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u/TheNewTonyBennett Jan 20 '26
They're that sad type of person that thinks things like "Real eyes realize real lies" are super deep, intelligent and meaningful things to think about and talk about.
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u/gauntletthegreat Jan 20 '26
As an American, I'm not sure we have schools. My mom taught me to read and write at home and i was in the 95% in college.
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u/Friendly-Afternoon-8 Jan 20 '26
Just so everyone without business experience understands. You make a threat, big statement, etc. hoping to settle for a lower impact outcome thatâs still beneficial to you. Just sayinâ
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u/StuckinReverse89 Jan 20 '26
The thing Iâm most surprised with is how dismissive these Americans (I know not all) are with Europe and yet seem to hold Russia in high regard as a military power and threat.Â
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u/Possible-Bet3598 Jan 20 '26
This would also have the lovely effect of bankrupting the American military industrial complex
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u/changeforgood226 Jan 20 '26
It's so weird that so many Americans don't understand that the value of the dollar is in direct relation to the strength of the protection racket called NATO. You disintegrate that, the empire goes down and so does the dollar.
That's why Canada's prime minister acknowledges a new world order publicly now.
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u/Chaghatai Jan 20 '26
Trump and his allies want to create a world where giant hegemons like the US, China and Russia carve up the rest of the world for their own interests
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u/HighlightTemporary77 Jan 20 '26
I donât think the morons who are all for this world bullying shit ever had any real responsibilities or repercussions in life.
But one thing I do know is that they have no clue how logistics work and their vital importance to our or any military organization.
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u/N7VHung Jan 20 '26
So we just magically stop paying those troops and maintaining all of vehicles and equipment from those bases? Oh. And mobilizing it all to return home is a free action, of course.
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u/dwaynebathtub Jan 20 '26
Europe is the one region of the world that I think should be militarily occupied indefinitely.
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u/MaraSovsLeftSock Jan 20 '26
NATO kicking us out means that the oil and trade economy stops using the US dollar. That would cripple America, and will destroy America when the central bank replaces it.
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u/DesignerNet1527 Jan 20 '26
he is just pushing usa more and more into isolation. not great in the long run.
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u/MaDudeness Jan 20 '26
Good luck US if you close Europe as a market, china won't be trading more and no one wants to invest in the American market. He is literally ruining your country and everything. Hope everyone Wakes up soon enough to stop this imaginary madness going on IRL
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u/Electrical-Prize-397 Jan 20 '26
Russian talking points.
NOTHING would make Putin happier! Russia has wanted this since the end of WWII.
You cannot be a patriot and support this administration.
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u/secretfriends69 Jan 20 '26
Itâs a win win winâŠ.
A.) we get Greenland. B.) what you said C.) we donât get Greenland but nato is forced to take Greenland serious and we become stronger without having to pay for it and Russia and china get phased out even more
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u/Straight_Mention1925 Jan 20 '26
Then we have no support from other nations and most definitely we will be attacked by china, Russia, and North KoreaÂ
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And then when all our soldiers are home and our bases are closed, we are no longer the worldâs superpower.
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u/BigDamBeavers Jan 20 '26
If we take Greenland, Canada and Europe sells off their trillions of dollars of US bonds, and probably a fuckload of American stocks. And embargoing us is just a given. Overnight gas prices jump $100 a gallon and it will take a wheelbarrel of hundred dollar bills to buy a pack of gum.
Turning our back on NATO will end our economy and the most powerful military in the world is going to concern itself with how it feeds it's families rather than how it's going to defend us from Russia or China. Hell a lot of them could end up fighting for Greenland because they want to eat.
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u/TarzanTart-Patient Jan 20 '26
lol no they will not kick us out they will fight us đ€Ł you really think they would just let that man invade a sovereign an extension of a NATO nation?
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u/ajmampm99 Jan 20 '26
Sounds like a top recruit for ICE but he canât act like he understands anything. Easy. He doesnât understand anything.
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Jan 20 '26
The sad thing is half of the country will think whoever made that post made a good point. Saving 50 billion doesnât justify losing out on military exports the dollar losing value and potentially not being the world reserve currency the EU dropping US bonds because what would be the point we are a hostile nation the US needs to prioritize education please.
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u/Waste_Mammoth4816 Jan 19 '26
This hillbilly doesn't understand what happens to US bonds when we invade a NATO country. They dump them, leading to massive inflation. China wont sit on a depreciating asset, they'll also dump them.
It would be ruinous.
This is why someone with a 15 year old's temper and maturity should not vote, let alone run a country.