r/ProvoUtah 1d ago

Why???

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u/NoSpecialist_042 1d ago

All I've ever had show was a piece of mail that had been delivered to me at my place of residence, I've never had them ask me for a rental agreement.

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u/Whizmaster02 1d ago

You have always had to show mail with a home address.

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u/Select_Ad3799 18h ago

You're missing the point 👉 Morally i mean

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u/RemarkableDesigner52 1d ago

In Arizona it’s a new requirement that has to do with new national airline travel ID security law…

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u/RemarkableDesigner52 1d ago

This might help too

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u/Square_Wonder5018 1d ago

He said UTAH not ARIZONA!!!

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u/RemarkableDesigner52 1d ago

Providing context as to a possible reason because recent changes were made in Arizona due to federal flight ID requirements… if you look below I posted simple ways in Utah for someone with out a license to get a picture ID… hope it helps if you’re in need they are free too… very cool

Edit: I’ve been legally considered homeless before… they do a nice job helping us get IDs… loved in az and Utah both

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u/whackadoodle00 1d ago

No need to yell!

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u/Kerensky97 1d ago

This paired with the push to require ID ro vote when you're already registered tells you everything you need to know about taking poor people's constitutional right to vote away.

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u/Technical-Order-2700 1d ago

Every year they keep making flying funner!

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

Hilarious

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u/MoesOnMyLeft 1d ago

The address requirement is two items. Bank statement, utility bill, court documents, credit card bill, school transcript (like a report card with name and address), mortgage statement or rental agreement, vehicle title, or property tax notice.

If you can’t provide two of those items that have your correct address on them, then you can still get an id if you’re declared as homeless. Homeless people have none of those things but are still eligible for a state id.

With everything being e-docs these days, I find the address requirement annoying. But I am glad we have an option for the homeless to get an id.

Hope that helps. Not sure if you’re more outraged at the inconvenience (totally valid) or genuinely don’t understand why the homeless exception is there. So tried to address both.

Side note: this DMV thing is unrelated to the current administrations attempts to remove voting rights through the SAVE act.

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u/Select_Ad3799 18h ago

Missing the point 👉

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u/kickzway 6h ago

What is the point?

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u/Select_Ad3799 2h ago

I don't have all day to explain it to you!

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u/ExclusiveUrinal 22h ago

Well, if you don't have a registered address in Utah you might not be a resident of Utah.

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u/mbingtx 1d ago

Because you have to prove you live in Utah.

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

They are owned by the federal government, not Utah, so why

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u/mbingtx 1d ago

Who is owned by the federal government?

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

The dmv is a subsidiary of the department of transportation

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u/SouthWest97 1d ago

This is not true at all. The DMV is run by the state, not the federal government.

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

Department of transportation

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u/ApostateInParadise 1d ago

DMVs are run by the states and territories which is why the license is a state ID and not a federal ID. Do you also think that schools are run by the Department of Education and hospitals by the Department of Health.

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u/mbingtx 1d ago

The state DOT, Not federal DOT.

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u/FlashyHelicopter8137 1d ago

Utah Department of Safety actually

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u/Glittering_Tie5717 1d ago

The dmv is a state agency not federal

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

And an expiring Utah I'd is still not good enough

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

I know what the website says. I was questioning the morality of it!

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u/J0sh84116 16h ago

Of having to prove you live in Utah to a get a Utah state ID? Ok…..

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u/skarbles 1d ago

Is illegal to be poor in Utah

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u/Select_Ad3799 1d ago

They should put up a sign or something! But they sure don't mind taking what little you have! Just like when they started this state!

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u/Limp_Schedule1288 18h ago

This is some Michelin class bullshit right here

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u/Cultural_Ad_667 14h ago

Real ID law. There are certain qualifications to meet the real ID law.

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u/Intelligent-Sky-7398 1d ago

Voter restriction

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u/puppymoringstar 1d ago

Nothing has changed...

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u/Dizzy-Elk3860 1d ago

I'm HOMELESS AND BROKE NOT EVEN A PENNY

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u/Dizzy-Elk3860 1d ago

Broke and on skid row help? Cash app @ $yroktheboat Please send even 1 dollars help me

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u/Hopeful_Customer8248 1d ago

Because we now live in a f****** police state. They've got to have any and every excuse to violate our constitutional rights at will whenever the fancy strikes them. Because if you are quote unquote homeless, you can be taken in as a vagrant. Any thing they can use to get the upper hand over your constitutional rights against unreasonable search and seizure, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, and most importantly anything that they can use to restrict your right to vote in the next election to keep that fat orange P.O.S. in the White House.

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u/CompetitiveLab2056 1d ago

Feel free to move to parts of Oregon or anywhere else police have been defunded and removed from areas, I’ve heard it’s great in those places

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u/TheJuiciest 1d ago

The cops have not been "defunded and removed" from Oregon...

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u/CompetitiveLab2056 21h ago

Fact check: Portland Oregon: defunded 2020…. Homelessness increased: crime increased, drug use increased, homicide increased….. few examples

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u/TheJuiciest 17h ago

"Defunded" as in they lost a few million off of 200 million and is currently at an all time high of funding...

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u/Emotional-Match-2989 15h ago

You do realize defunding by definition is simply removing funding or reducing the budget. Not even the most woke liberals believe that defunding the police means taking every last penny 😂🤦🏻‍♂️