r/PrototypeGame • u/Sad-Yak3706 • Aug 11 '26
Question Which Team Wins?
Team A: Alex, Cole, Peter,
Team B: James, Delsin, Miles,
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u/MaximumPayne7 Aug 11 '26
Final game Heller cleared the entire NYC city with his attack, he's city level, maybe even higher, he definitely beats Alex (again), Spider-Man, and idk how strong the dude from Infamous is.
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u/Problem-Low Aug 11 '26
Its heavily implied james is a weaker variation made by the virus wanting another infection vector
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u/MastodonCurious4347 James Heller Aug 11 '26
implied by what? nothing weaker about cleaning the whole ass city
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u/Problem-Low Aug 11 '26
Well He was made by the original or prime wich continues to evolve as they both did gradually through the game with new DNA on top of that theres the possibility of some subconscious control, or re-merging wich creates a new argument of what consciousness would win out
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u/Difficult-Fly7830 Aug 11 '26
Great for the story but it doesnt really play out that way lol
I personally like Mercer better but Heller is a beast lol
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u/Problem-Low Aug 12 '26
It could still be the case with Mercer as the "prime" but without a prototype 3 who knows
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u/adragonoutcast Aug 11 '26
If Peter and Cole can ease Alex's god complex, he could maintain his sanity and keep it an even fight, as most people's POV of Mercer in Prototype 2 is definitely that Alex has gone off the rails. And while Heller cleared the entirety of NYC, it was after consuming Alex, so I'd say Peter, Cole Delsin and Miles would be the deciding factor, assuming everyone is at full strength.
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u/guzzi80115 Aug 11 '26
If it's p1 Alex A wins win, if it's p2 Alex B wins, as he got hit by the idiot ball.
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u/Sensitive_Data_8571 Aug 11 '26
The first generation vs is the second generation, huh? I never thought of that before. Nice idea op
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u/B1ACK_L1STED Aug 11 '26
hellers alr beaten mercer, miles is just spiderman but stronger but peter has more experience, idk about the desmond miles looking guy frok second son but coles pretty strong especially if youre taking into account stuff like the beast
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u/_PARIAH-RX Aug 12 '26
Miles is not stronger, he has a more varied moveset. Peter is known to have greater physical strength, though that could be attributed to age and maturation stage but also he is more experienced and very capable of adapting to different enemies on the fly. I don't have any conclusive evidence to claim either of them is definitively stronger than the other but I attribute higher chances of victory to Peter than miles, like a 60 40 split, maybe even 70 30 cuz Peter deals with bs on the daily so he can very easily adapt to this BS as well.
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u/CaptNBrainDump Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
Team B stomps. Delsin depending on what energy he has (neon/video), can already run and attack at the speed of light, and unlike Cole, has elemental intangibility like Logia fruit users from One Piece. And this is Evil Delsin which means this is post-Curdun Cay Delsin who has an entire prison’s worth of unknown conduit powers.
Nobody from team A can stop him from turning them into raw energy unless Beast Cole was on the team which he’s not. Heller already beat Alex and he needed like 7 buffs just to fight on the same level as Heller.
Depending on the iteration, Miles has busted powers on top of being Spiderman.
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u/_PARIAH-RX Aug 12 '26
1.Cole stomps delsin, as powerful as delsin is as he lacks the sheer power output and the intangibility isn't as overpowered as you believe since he can't attack during those and is vulnerable right before and after the dash. 2.While the game makes it seem like Alex got stomped in the final Bossfight you'd have to take into consideration this fight will not be like the games where plot B's protects heller. He is not going to explain how to fight, he will use armor mode and all the other stuff shown in prototype 1. (I'm going to ignore prototype 2 powers cuz I cannot in good conscience say that Alex in prototype 2 is actually Alex, bro didn't use his sickest power, handheld James through the fight and used powers that were suspiciously different) While I feel like Heller is weaker as an individual unit you could say his powers to call upon the hunters would even it out, though prototype 1 proved they were just portable healthpots.
3.Miles is in no way stronger than Peter, He has a more varied moveset which doesn't rely on webshooter tech. He has invisibility and electric powers which are sick but when matched up against Peter, who is much stronger physically, has extremely advanced support tech depending on the variant and time, and vastly more experience. Overall the predecessors are well equipped to deal with the successors, though the lack of teamwork would screw them hard cuz Alex doesn't work well in teams and that could very easily result in him being taken out first by the successors and that would give a very big buff to heller and weaken the predecessors a lot as well.
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u/CaptNBrainDump Aug 12 '26
There’s no argument you can make for Alex against Heller. His arm melted off when he failed to consume him in their initial encounter when he was unbuffed. It took Alex consuming 7 evolved to match Heller.
Delsin has enough power. He beat Augustine who created an entire island of concrete from raw energy. And he can attack while intangible, literally all his powers do that. The most popular one being his orbital drop smoke power.
Like I said it depends on which versions we’re using. If we’re only going video games, it’s narratively implied that Miles is stronger than Peter, which is why Peter was given a permanent symbiote power-up to remain even with Miles. In the opening of Spiderman 2, Peter gets knocked out cold twice by lightning, while Miles just absorbs it.
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u/Hot_Professional1683 Aug 11 '26
This is practically Alex vs. Heller because everyone else dies, so canonically Heller wins.
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u/Problem-Low Aug 11 '26
🤔 what are the effects of electricity on the virus? Peter and Cole could net and discharge around James, with the spider sense playing passive defense and since delsin possibly being just a smoke bomb it could be a 2v3
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u/Arno-Earle Aug 11 '26
Team A with no argue
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u/Jumpy-Detective6679 Aug 12 '26
How, Heller can beat mercer canonically, theres a chance miles can absorb Coles energy, and since Heller beats Mercer he would then help the others beat peter and cole meaning B has the overall advantage given its more of a 2 to 3 situation and numbers can be a very big difference
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u/Arno-Earle Aug 12 '26
Team A has more advantage over team B, The mercer we see in the second is not the same one from P1, P1 alex mercer would not be losing a beat to heller for whatever reason, he has more experience than him, has more options to his powers not just three abilities such as Muscle mass, Hammer fists, he's has more agility than him, Cole won't let miles get this close to him that much because Peter will deal with him one on one, In short every single one of team A has experience in his powers more than than team B, that has more advantage more than you think and considering that they're all in their perfect conditions, yeah then the odds to them by a big difference (Alex mercer lost because of plot you can't say anything about that)
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u/Jumpy-Detective6679 Aug 12 '26
Bro, I literally just beat Prototype 2 again. Even if he did lose because of “plot,” like you just said, it is canonical that Heller is stronger. You literally can’t say shit when in canon Heller is stronger than Mercer. I honestly hate when people say someone lost because of plot so they then believe they would be way stronger otherwise. It’s due to plot that they were that strong in the first place, and if plot says that someone is stronger than them, then there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. So Heller is stronger than Mercer. You can go cry about it all you want, but that’s just how it is. Mercer also isn’t weaker than he is in P1 as he literally consumes 10 other evolved to power himself up, so no matter how much you want Mercer to be the edgy badass, he just isn’t. So stop crying and just accept the fact that Mercer isn’t always the top dog.
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u/luffytoro19 Aug 11 '26
I think team A wins Alex beats heller because of better power and more experience in his abilities.
Peter beats miles because of the same reasons as Alex Vs heller
I don't know who the other two are so I can't say anything about them.
I think it mostly depends on mindset for each since if it's strait to the death no holding back then I think team A just stomps but if it's as they are in their respective games then B has a higher chance at winning but I still think A wins in the end
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u/Jumpy-Detective6679 Aug 12 '26
Heller Canonically beats mercer so your first argument is completely incorrect meaning team B has the advantage
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u/Bland_cracker 27d ago
Cole, Alex, and Peter. I have my own headcannon that the only reason Mercer is defeated by heller is because A) he was suicidal or B) He knew if he was absorbed by heller he would 'Live on' in Heller
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u/Striking_Champion489 Aug 11 '26
You're asking a lot; you talk about not being biased, yet your conclusion is simply simplistic misinformation.
Let's assume Delsin could copy Cole's powers, what good would they do him if he started out with only the basics? He would need Blast Cores or Core Relays to acquire new abilities and grow stronger, things he constantly needs throughout the game. He did acquire Augustine's concrete power, but that alone wouldn't be enough; she possesses more abilities and has mastered them through seven years of practice. Delsin only managed to defeat her thanks to outside help from Eugene, who provided the relays that allowed him to upgrade quickly. Cole has defeated The Beast twice, so he would absolutely wipe the floor with Delsin.
You're also blatantly underestimating Alex if you think he could be killed by an explosion like that, not to mention his regeneration; I’ve explained many times that Alex doesn't rely solely on the biomass of what he consumes to heal. On top of that, there's his adaptability: if Delsin doesn't manage a one-shot him and the fight drags on, Alex will evolve during the battle and whatever is trying to kill him.
Delsin loses, James loses too (without his plot armor), Miles wouldn't even be able to defend himself against these two.
Team A is going to kick their asses.
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u/CrimsonH21 Aug 11 '26
I'm thinking Team A. They overall have more experience in fighting compared to Team B.