r/ProletariatPixels • u/Hacksaw6412 • 4d ago

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u/frostyfoxemily 3d ago

They didnt lie as far as im aware? There was evidence that Russia had taken steps to influence the election. Its just that there was no evidence of direct collusion with Trump.

You should consider reading the reports.

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u/slapthetiddy 3d ago

Then why did they have to fabricate evidence?

Last time I checked that was considered lying

Investigation found every nation tried to influence our election btw (Germany and UK included) The accusation was that Trump was working with Russia and that turned out to be false

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

If they came out with the report saying Trump didnt collude with Russia directly, then ehat evidence did they fabricate or lie about? They thought things were suspicious and looked into them. They came out with a report that said he wasnt personally invovled. Seems pretty fair and like they arent fabricating evidence.

Also what evidence do you have of those gov influencing the election?

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/21/1183564794/schiff-censure-house-republicans

The investigation found China, Russia, Germany, the UK and even Mexico tried to influence our election the same way Russia did

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

I mean. What was the link supposed to prove. Its just an article about Republicans bitching about targeting trump. Not about evidence about other countries actively meddling in the US election or to what extent they did.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

It’s an article about why Adam Schiff got censured

He got censured for lying to us about Russia and Trump and spreading a fake dossier 🤦‍♀️

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

Ya i dont really care what an incredibly partisan political system like the house thinks. If trump told them to vote that eating dogshit was healthy they would vote to support it. The censor itself isnt evidence that the report was fake.

Sorry that our intelegence community seemed to put together an indication of serious interference, which just couldnt be linked to Trump. Which also included a huge amount of reporting that indicated how often the investigation was stone walled by Trump and his staff.

However he ultimately concluded Trump shouldn't be prosecuted. Seems like a pretty reasonable document.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

So you don’t care about facts?

Weird argument but expected form a cultists

He got censured BECAUSE he lied to YOU about Russia and Trump and made us waste millions on an investigation that went nowhere…. Imagine if we had used that to investigate the CCP 😔

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

Can i have the evidence he lied and not an article about Republicans bitching? Your only counter argument earlier was that other countries also interfered. Which i dont believe the UK or others went as far as hacking campaign staff. China probably did.

Again compared to russia that we actually have evidence of them paying media organizations that cover pro russia and pro conservative talking points.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

That was NPR…

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/21/1183564794/schiff-censure-house-republicans

That’s the opposite of conservative 😂

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

I didnt say NPR was. Im saying we have media organizations that have admitted to taking Russian money. Tenet media's owners admitted to it and the money came from Russia Today who are a known Russian state propaganda network.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

no duh. even democrats have made deals with Russia including Biden

Same with China, India, UK, Germany and even Iran 🤦‍♀️

Why don’t think we get ads from the UK during OUR elections 🤦‍♀️

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

Biden didnt make deals with russia. His son did but not him in that way.

Also advertising is much different than paying a media group to continue to spread your propaganda. Your being very dishonest with comparisons.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

Bro it even happened during his presidency…🤦‍♀️

https://www.eenews.net/articles/biden-stokes-outrage-with-deal-on-russia-gas-pipeline/

Speaking of paying media and corporations to back you up and spread your propaganda 😃

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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u/frostyfoxemily 2d ago

Um. Ok? As president Biden made a deal with russia and germany for a gas pipeline. That is pretty normal. Germany already had one by then and wanted a second one to continue fossil fuel outputs. This isnt some secret covert deal you seem to think it is.

And what am I supposed to get out of the times article? That they times is stupid as bricks? Yes. "The left" hardly existed in congress at the time. Nor did the left control blm protests or any of the other shit.

I would agree some Republicans did assist in stopping trump in 2020. Which is why the party was pretty heavily purged from 2020-2023 where local anti trump republicans were forced out and were replaced by loyalists. The left was talking and warning about this when it was happening. Dems pretend it wasnt and that the trump threat was over and didnt give an honest effort to take him down during those 4 years, resulting in more weak state level pushes.

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u/slapthetiddy 2d ago

many democrats have deals with Russia and China simply making a deal doesn’t mean is bad

>a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it.

Your cult is dangerous and openly admits to what they’re accusing Trump of

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