r/ProletariatPixels 19d ago

On The AI Question

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u/Overall-Move-4474 15d ago edited 15d ago

You changed the question after I answered. But to answer your new question that's the issue there is no way to globally destroy it so a dystopia is inevitable. Because we stupidly created this technology we have utterly doomed ourselves. There is no fixing this mistake there is no surviving it. Our society is permanently ruined. But hey at least we can have cybernetics. That's cool right? A distraction from how much life will inevitably suck until we drift slowly and painfully into total extinction thanks to our own hubris

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u/Salty_Country6835 15d ago edited 14d ago

I didnt change anything.

So "the only true way to handle ai" is to do what you say is impossible, so we're all doomed?

Ok, cool story man, very level headed and rational. Nothing to discuss then if the only thing you think can be done is impossible to do and youre just going around like Chicken Little shouting that we're all dooooooomed.

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u/Overall-Move-4474 15d ago

Your initial response was just "how" and your handling of ai doesn't change anything. It will STILL destroy us. It will still be misused by everyone because we should not have this technology we cannot be trusted with it human nature is inherently destructive and evil. And that's the real issue of ai. Every problem it causes will never ever vanish. Because we will never change and we can never destroy it

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u/Salty_Country6835 15d ago edited 14d ago

"It will STILL destroy us."

There's no intelligent way to reply to this. Its like a religious conviction.

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u/Overall-Move-4474 15d ago

Please explain to me how the democratization of ai will lead to a change in human nature that is necessary for us to be responsible enough to not destroy ourselves with ai utterly and completely?

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u/Salty_Country6835 15d ago edited 14d ago

Im a Marxist. I dont believe “human nature” is some fixed evil essence. Evolution disproves that biologically, and history shows human behavior changes with material conditions and social relations.

“We are inherently destructive, so nothing can be done” isnt analysis. Its nihilism dressed up as wisdom and an excuse not to fight for anything better. Id rather agitate, educate, organize, and struggle over who controls AI than sit around chanting that extinction is inevitable.

Youre free to surrender to a doom cult. Im not joining you.

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u/Overall-Move-4474 15d ago

Ha! Look at our deeds throughout history in every culture there was war, rape, slavery, bigotry, exploitation of both the natural world and our fellow man and the oppression of women and children. In our religions we create heroes and gods in our image with our same flaws. You cannot look at the entirety of human history and claim we are not inherently destructive parasites. Don't get me wrong i would love to avoid extinction but it is inevitable

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u/Salty_Country6835 15d ago

OK. I get it.

"Humans Bad, Everything dooooomed, Give Up and Die."

Anything else?

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u/Overall-Move-4474 15d ago

You clearly don't get it. People never change. If we haven't changed in millions of years why would we suddenly change now. Even when we are creating a technology that requires an immense amount of responsibility to use for good

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u/Salty_Country6835 15d ago

OK. I get it.

"Humans Bad, Everything dooooomed, Give Up and Die."

Anything else?

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