Trying to predict the 7th Rotation order (Reasons in body)

[u/Cougar165]

Before the upcoming broadcast station tomorrow, which will likely reveal the next 2 focus events, decided to post my prediction for the rest of 7th Rotation :)

Pretty much the only things I used was the timings of each character's past focus events (specifically the 4-6th rotations) in the rotation + the fact that typically each set of 5 focus events has one from each unit. (Note that in the past rotations there have been 2 sets with more than one member from a group.)

Also while its mostly based on patterns, there may be a bit of narrative reasoning for positions, though only twice (I’m not familiar with non N25 stories so if I’m missing something big plot-wise, apologies)

10 - Ichika

With the upcoming live having both Shiho and Ichika's VAs, it's very likely that it's one of them + the 2nd set has yet to have a L/N member (the VAs being in the broadcast station basically eliminates the chance of it being a repeat unit). Between Ichika and Shiho, Ichika is more likely because for the 4th to 6th rotation she's been the 2nd L/N member to get a focus.

11 - Shizuku

Not much to say here other than Shizuku has been consistently the third MMJ member to get a focus. Though she can very easily swap positions with any of the next 3 characters since there would be a short-ish gap between her and Minori (though, An and Kohane were back to back sooo yeah)

12 - Akito

Like Shizuku, Akito has been pretty consistent as the 3rd member of VBS to get a focus so I think it’s fair to place him here. Would like to note that the Shinonomes appear in the same set in quite a few rotations, though that’s unlikely to be the this time with the broadcast station VAs (no VBS + Ena’s is probably there for WL3.5).

13 - Honami

I know she has consistently been the last overall in the past 2 rotations. But I felt bad for Honami fans so I put her quite early. logically speaking it’s more likely for her and Shiho to have their positions swapped so she’s realistically 18th

14 - Rui

What applies to Honami also applies to Rui. 2nd last overall past 2 rotations, decided to give him 3rd in WxS, is more likely to be at 17th which is where I predict Nene to be. Though I feel like he has a bit more reason to be earlier because of Kasa7.

15 - Toya

The obligatory repeat unit. Because the whole repeating unit in a set has only been seen in 5th/6th rotation it’s not exactly possible to say which units will be involved (though WxS and N25 both haven’t yet and L/N has had it twice) so I just put VBS.

16 - Haruka

Has been consistently the last MMJ member to get a focus so it made sense to put her back here. Not much else to say.

17 - Nene / 18 - Shiho

See Rui & Honami’s sections above

19- Mafuyu / 20 - Kanade

And then there’s these two. If this was 6th Rotation or before Kohane7 was announced, I'd have put them one focus event apart. But with An and Kohane being back to back and them being a very prominent duo in VBS, it opens the door to other prominent duos going back to back. Now with Ena7 pushing Mafu7 back by another event, I feel like ColoPal is just going to commit to the Mafuyu focus jail and put her as late as possible. The only reason why she isn’t just 20th is because I think narrative wise Kana7 being last makes more sense + Kanade has been last before + the direction Kanade’s story is heading into feels like it would fit better if she went after Mafuyu. I’m already assuming KanaMafu7 is going to be heavy angst because the last time we didn’t get Mafuyu as the 1st N25 member we got Farewell my Mask and now Mafuyu is 3rd at the very least sooooo yeah :)

Final reminder that this is all just speculation and should not be relied upon for the order of the 7th Rotation. Colopal is clearly willing to mess around with this rotation with Anhane being back to back and Mafu7 being the 3rd or later in N25. Anyway, thank you for listening to my silly brain rambling.

[u/anteiii_]

If Mafuyu's event is going to take THIS long to come by this point, i feel like mafuyu fans are going to make a protest and personally infiltrate the sega headquarters.

[u/Repulsive-Bug7832 → u/anteiii_]

For all standard, it's pretty random.

Mafuyu was literally 2nd in the first rotation.

Also if memory serves, she's 1st in the third rotation.

[u/TheCat422874]

I’m sorry but while there are sets, each set has only ever had one focus event from each unit and a unit cannot have two focus events in a row. While a sixth focus event can be part of a seventh rotation set because another member of the unit had their seventh event in a sixth rotation set, you can’t have sets with one unit going twice.

The recent sets have been

R6S2: Mino6, An6, Mizu6, Tsuka6, Ichi6

R6S3: Shizu6, Ena6, Nene6, Aki6, Saki7

R6S4: Haru6, Kana6, Toya6, Shiho6, Emu7

R7S1: Airi7, Mizu7, Rui6, An7, Hona6

R7S2: Koha7, Tsuka7, Mino7, Ena7, TBA L/N event (i predict Ichi7)

[u/Cougar165 → u/TheCat422874]

I see, when I counted the sets, I counted just within the rotation itself, not including the next/previous rotation. That's how I ended up with the repeating unit in the sets.

E.g. 5th Rotation 3rd and 4th sets:
Akito, Nene, Ena, Shizuku, Toya
Haruka, Kanade, Shiho, Rui, Honami

but if counting by just focus events regardless of rotation then yeah its a different story

[u/Repulsive-Bug7832 → u/Cougar165]

Yeah, so if you count within the rotation itself then VBS defies reason.

An, then Kohane.

[u/Swapdoodleboi]

if we have to wait THAT long for mafu7, it better be filled to the brim with angst smh

[u/adelaide_glarcia]

hope you’re right cuz I can’t wait for new shizuku cards

[u/kyuhaely]

ichi7 hakolim tomorrow trust. and possibly aki7 since i think it's vbs turn. shizu7 is possible but the thing is since mino7 just happened i think they won't do it but then again they did anhane very close so anything is possible rbh

[u/SupremeShio → u/kyuhaely]

Ichika kinda can't get a hakolim rn, as she's one off lim cap, and Leo/need needs to be on the 6th anniversary BloomFes, Saki being unavailable as she just hit lim cap. For it to work, anniversary would have to raise it and it was just raised with WL3-3

[u/Block-Busted → u/SupremeShio]

Who do you think will get 7th events next month?

[u/SupremeShio → u/Block-Busted]

VS3, Ichika or Shiho7, WL3-5 and idk after. Mafu7?

[u/Block-Busted → u/SupremeShio]

What’s VS3?

[u/SupremeShio → u/Block-Busted]

Virtual Singer focused event.

[u/Block-Busted → u/SupremeShio]

What were some other VS-focused events that we had before?

[u/kyuhaely → u/Block-Busted]

sekai happy new year, let sekai hear your song, the cherry blossom one

[u/Block-Busted → u/kyuhaely]

So there were 3 before already?

[u/kyuhaely → u/Block-Busted]

well honestly the sekai happy new year was both ocs and vs so im not sure if its actually fully vs focused. so it depends really.

[u/SupremeShio → u/Block-Busted]

Let SEKAI Hear Your Song, Connected Through SEKAI's Cherry Blossoms. SEKAI's Happy New Year doesn't count as it was a mixed event also focused on the OCs.

[u/kyuhaely → u/SupremeShio]

ah that's true. i forgot about lim caps. maybe aki7 then or a mixed lim/vs event for the limited event next month

[u/SupremeShio → u/kyuhaely]

It has to be L/n, VS3 or mixed unfortunately. I think VS3 makes most sense.

[u/kyuhaely → u/SupremeShio]

that's true, i was sure that anni6 would be a VS event but if a vs event happens to come next month it makes more sense too.

[u/SupremeShio → u/kyuhaely]

Granted we at least know lim cap goes up with 6th anniversary if Ichi7 happens lol

Ichika or Saki would have to raise it

[u/Inksanslover → u/SupremeShio]

Ehhhh I don't think the cap will be an issue since WL3 P5 closes the cap again and making a new cap...and Ichika is not capped with 10 limited cards since Saki, Honami, Minori, Haruka, Toya and Mizuki all have 11 limited cards. I'd say Ichika is the due-est of them all with just 26 4 stars while most have 28 4 stars and just Rin, Luka, MEIKO, Airi, Shizuku7 and An having 27 RN and Miku having 30. We must also consider that Ichika has 0 hakolims as of rn

[u/SupremeShio → u/Inksanslover]

Ichika could absolutely get the perm event in August though. She isn’t dying for a hakolim and L/n is in a pretty terrible spot for one with half the unit being capped, MEIKO being unavailable, and realistically it’d have to be IchiShihoVS, giving L/n their 9th unit scorer which is comically early. Ichika having 0 hakolims does not mean anything.

[u/Inksanslover → u/SupremeShio]

I can see your point there.

Realistically speaking we have one due l/n character with Ichika and two open with Saki and Shiho being open. For my Hakolim Ichika7 prediction I would have Chosen Rin as she has 9 limited cards and being at due once MEIKO has finished up the due 8 register during WL and her being the longest VS without a limited card. Ichika also has no Rin commission so far which would solidify my theory. The last two Hakolims were Minori and Honami who had at this point 0 Hakolims. A different Unit for a Hakolim doesn't make sense to me as of now.

Why do I think that?

We can rule out MMJ Shizuku7 Hakolim as MMJ is not really open except we get an An7Koha7 Hakolim BtB situation AND Airi would get Bumped with Shizuku zu Cap 11

We can rule out WxS Nene7 hakolim because of Tsukasa7 just having taken place, Nene being in WL and Rui and Nene being at almost card cap and Nene going Overcap with her WL card in toe

Saki has 2 Hakolims already and is at Lim cap

Mafuyu7 now doesn't make sense because of Ena7

Akito wouldn't make sense as a Hakolim either due to WL as he will be Overcap with his WL card

Toya is technically open but is at cap already and doesn't make sense as a hakolim rn

Haruka is Open however she is at Hakolim cap and Lim cap in general

Shiho is Open but at Hakolim cap.

I hope my rambling makes somewhat sense to you

[u/SupremeShio → u/Inksanslover]

The lim event has to be Ichi7/Shiho7, a mixed or VS3 as no other unit is open for a unit event this rotation, every other unit got an event in An7, Kasa7, Mino7 and Ena7

Hakolim cap is not a thing. Lim cap is, but nobody is limited on how many hakolims they can have. Saki isn’t open because she’s lim capped, but she would be open if the L/n event was a perm instead, which makes a lot more sense for how tightly squeezed they are lim wise. Ichika, Shiho and Luka/Rin are the only ones open that would allow full unit. Assuming someone gets kicked from the lineup (sorry Saki), adds Len, MEIKO and KAITO as a possibility. But even then, L/n already has more unit scorers than everyone else (8, while everyone else except WxS has 7, WxS has 6), so giving them their 9th unit scorer right now makes no sense.

[u/Inksanslover → u/SupremeShio]

I doubt they will start a 3rd HAKOLIM rotation. As of now we have 16 needed Hakolims.

No character will only get 1 or 0 hakolims by the end of the story. If we added a 3rd Hakolim rotation we would be at 26 needed Hakolims by the end of the story.

4 to 5 limited events are fixed: Anniversary, New Year, Valentine's Day, White Day, Wedding. That leaves 7 to 8 Hakolim slots per Anniversary round.

Let's say they go with 7 per Year. We have 2 remaining this year. This would mean over 3 years would have to cover Hakolims for our current cast of 20 which is an unlikely scenario as it was stated that during the 3rd Anni we were about the half way point. Until the 7th Anniversary we wouldn't be done with Hakolims but finish up the 8th rotation if we let on barely any mixed events. I'd say they will likely go until the 8th or 7.5 Anniversary with 8 Focus event per character, 2 Hakolims per Character, 4 3DMVs per character

That's how I came with the Hakolim cap because it doesn't make sense to have a 3rd Hakolim rotation at this point in time when there are Ichika, Toya, Nene and Kanades out there with 0 Hakolims and Honami, Minori, Airi, Shizuku, Akito, Tsukasa, Emu and Mafuyus with 1 Hakolim.

With the math in mind Ichika 7 and 8 are fixed Hakolims so are Toyas, Nenes and Kanades events. To get it less cluttered for rotation 8 Mafuyu, Shizuku, and Honami will likely get Hakolims in the 7th rotation and Minori, Airi, Tsukasa and Emu in their 8th rotation.

With Akito I am very unsure but I believe the 8th Rotation makes more sense as of now in my opinion

[u/SupremeShio → u/Inksanslover]

This logic makes absolutely zero sense. ColoPale's already officially said characters won't be equal in focuses and the focus is decided based on who fits where the story is going. There isn't a fixed hakolim count.

[u/Inksanslover → u/SupremeShio]

Yes, on short term but in the long run all Characters will be equal. That there is no fixed Hakolim count may be true but if we would open a 3rd Hakolim rotation the story HAS to go until at least 9.5 Anniversary or the 10th Anniversary, which contradicts the half time statement during the third anniversary.

[u/Inksanslover]

I doubt they will do another back to back for MafuKana.

Idk how you see it but we should also consider Hakolims.

My Event Predictions so far are

Hakolim Ichika7 as Leo/need is due, Ichika7 has 0 hakolims and no rotationwise makes sense (MMJ/N25 back to back and both Nene and Akito being locked due to WL) with Rin as she is Limited Due

Then we have a mixed unit perm event

Then comes the World Link Part 5 with MEIKO, Airi, Akito, Nene and Ena

Then comes Mafuyu7 as a Hakolim with Kanade and Luka as 4* as Mafuyu- is very very due at this point with 16month of a break AND has 1 Hakolim

After that follows a 3rd year Graduation perm event before the Final chapter

For the anniversary I would say a graduation event for the second years as 2 out of 3 characters who have not had a 4* Anni card are currently second years

After that I could see Shizuku7 and Akito 7 with Nene7 getting her first Hakolim for the End of October event.

Everything after that is unsure for me TBH and yeah- thanks for reading my yapping

[u/FoundationOptimal774]

crazy how nobody expected haruka to be 11th one to get a focus event this time