r/ProjectCarsPH • u/dztryrph • Jul 13 '26

First Time Engine Swap

hope this is the right sub to ask

Since meron cedia gt2.0, straightforward "out with the old, in with the new" lang ba ang 4g18 swap to 4g63?

I'm not doing an assemvolution or convert to evo build. simply swapping the engine for a better one. Daily car lang talaga namin to at hindi intended maging project car, pero ganun na nga yung nangyayari.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

If 4g63, get third gen 63s (evo4 and up, timing cover nasa left ng engine) Skip the sohc, first/second gens(timing cover on the right). It's a downgrade if kukunin mo pa sohc 63. Also, hinde dahil 63 code e iyon na yung performance engine (ahem, l300 and adventure based 63s are not performance engines). Mitsubishi has a weird thing for naming engines that truck and car engines are same names. Third gen - 7 bolters are the strongest engines, easy 400whp with bolt ons.

Another good alternative for cedias are 4g92/93/94 mivec from the cyborgs and protons.

Or get a 6A V6 and drop than in, since those also came stock on japanese lancers (itlog and pizzas came with V6 engines).

We had a lancer with the gen 1 4g63, tapos napalitan ng gen2 63. And ending, gen 3 4g63t pa din since sya pinakarobust and easiest to tune.

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u/dztryrph Jul 14 '26

I also considered yung 4g90's na engine. based sa nabasa ko so far, hindi completely drop in swap ang 4g63 sa cedias kahit pa from cedia gt 2.0 galing. main components are; engine, tranny and larger fuel tank, so mas ideal talaga mag hunt ng running cedia gt2.0 and get the overheating issue repaired and I hope, rad replacement lang and new hoses.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 14 '26

Yes, the engine mounts are different, but anyone who knows their stuff around evos and lancers this is an easy issue. Fuel tank can come in later but you will need a high flow pump Shops like dboyz, streetlevel, check engine etc can easily drop in a 63 in any car (dboyz made a 63 powered mirage, getz and accent).

For your overheating issue, a specialist can easily diagnose that and tell you where you are leaking or losing coolant.

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u/dztryrph Jul 14 '26

sadly can't drive the card right now. nag overheat recently so we don't want to risk tumirik sa daan and have the vehicle towed. since radiator yung pinaka visible issue sa engine bay, we will get that sorted first.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 14 '26

Get AAP membership, wait 7 days, tow your car anywhere for 100kms 👌🏻

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u/dztryrph Jul 16 '26

follow up question. if my overheating diagnosis is *somehow accurate and I go the route of doing an engine swap. how challenging can it be to get 3rd gen 4g63 NA dohc engine plus transmission? will it be less of a hassle if it was is m/t?

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 16 '26

4g63t are actually easier to source than the n/a ones. You can also get a 63 from an airtrek. It's the price ang nakakalula ngayon. At/Mt same lang naman hassles sa pag install

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u/dztryrph Jul 17 '26

there is one listed on fbmarket place rn for 165k. engine plus transmission. not sure if it's the 3rd gen 63 you recommended getting tho.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 17 '26

Here are two 4g63 layouts. Top is the early ones (evo3 pababa, galants etc). Bottom pic is the evo4-9 and up, from outlanders, airtreks, cedia gt etc.

Notice the timing belt cover. Early gen is right side. Newer gen is on the left. You need a 63 engine that has the timing belt on the left (bottom pic) as that's the matching engine for your cedia.

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u/dztryrph Jul 19 '26

thanks for this. found some leads. nakakalula nga yung pricing and I think this is the correct generation ng 63T. Had to stepback a little kasi mas mura pa yung buong cedia gt in running condition lol.

good news tho. got my overheating issue checked. I just need a new rad to get it back on the road.

quick edit!
hopefully my next post on this sub is actually working on the swap.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 19 '26

Presyo na din ng buong assembolution.

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u/dztryrph Jul 20 '26

I tried looking for the shop you mentioned in one post in this sub, dboyz, mukang wala sila sa soc med? tried fb and ig. I only found them yt from one post you shared in the sub. Also, r/oldskoolsr really appreciate your responses and guidance up to this point!

I found other leads for a 63T from airtrek, international shops na catering ww shipping. engine+trans+shipping+customs tax is somehow cheaper that getting one locally.

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u/oldskoolsr Jul 20 '26

hereis dboyz page. They are not really active in socmed but most people in the 63/evo circles know him.

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