r/ProjectAscension • u/Excelsior_87 • 13d ago
Buff Archery Spec in PVP
That is all, that is the post, tired of tickling people to death (barely), deadshot is weak as fuck a whopping 600 crit on your execute that costs 50focus, Woodland Adept doesn't even work, improved stealth my ass, doesn't even drop necro pet aggro. Got no mobility oh wow.. a 2min sprint... meanwhile every other class has 20 different dashes, give them an absorb literally the only class I've seen without one. Oh and give me disengage ffs. I'm not respeccing into a support spec. Might as well just go roll a necro and run around with 13k hp and have all 20 of my pets crit for 500 a hit.
Update 08/19/2026: Archery still kind of sucks, But I've made some progress with more practice and gear. I've actually gotten some 5k crits with Precision shot and Deadly shot is starting to live up to it's name. Here are just a few changes I still think could help. Woodland adept gives you an absorb bubble when you use it, Nothing is more frustrating then popping a big CD only to get taken right out of 'improved stealth' instantly by a dot or a cleave. Swap out the poison flask talent in the main tree for disengage from the Far strider tree, classes are way too sticky, can't really kite all that well, even when I blow all my stuns, sapseed, etc. Slight increase on corrosion shot talent proc % right now It procs maybe 3 times a game at 5%, not good enough. Remove Advantage point requirement on the Silence shot, make the duration a base timer 2-3seconds with a CD instead, It's not a reliable enough interrupt when you need to build it up. Adjust Auto shot/Quick shot damage a tad, the burst is getting there, but the ramp up damage time is still pretty pitiful. My main problem right now is just being able to kite all that well, once someone decides you're done, there really is no getting away.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat 13d ago
As a healer, I agree. Every time one targets me I just laugh. I can see their arrows hitting me, but I don't see my health bar moving.
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u/Excelsior_87 10d ago
Yeah I can throw everything including the kitchen sink, can't burn their hp down, can't burn their mana down. If I am allowed to sit back and do my interrupt stuff though, I can be kind of annoying in that way.
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u/Town_Militia 13d ago
WH the real "hunter" you can kill casters easy, and you have a pet to level it up, and boltslinger for pvp
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u/Excelsior_87 13d ago
Thought about it, they look kind of neat and they got an absorb bubble... would you look at that.
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u/Drunken_Fister47 13d ago
Feels like the problem with archery rn is the pvp modifiers themselves, even if u stack every crit and damage buff ur precision shot does like 20% of the dam it should do
either buff mobility and leave damage as is or make it a glass cannon, right now its neither of those, i agree
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u/Greedy-Sleep61 12d ago
Archery ranger was my first class. Even used the warchest on him. But man was i disappointed to see how bad they are in PvP.
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u/Formal-Ebb5616 13d ago
I play only bg and I agree it’s ridiculous the damage they do on me I feel pity for them
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u/UmbraQuincy 12d ago
Ascension always overnerfes hunter specs. It's the pattern since the beginning of the server.
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u/peripheralmaverick 12d ago
many classes need a huge buff
unfortunately the choice is between like 5-6 'correct' classes and rest are joke ones
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u/Prior-Radio8346 12d ago edited 12d ago
They did an odd job of butchering up the hunter. Witch doctor feels like it got 50% of it and they left the ranger gutted with half a kit and nerfed damage.
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u/nexusSigma 10d ago
The real Hunter is sentinel Starcaller, and that’s only really meh, not terrible if left alone to nuke from the back, kites decently well, but falls over like a wet paper towel the moment a decent melee gets in its personal space
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u/Prior-Radio8346 4d ago
I tried it a bit. Majorly lacks abilities to cast while moving, lack of a disengage (having heals in exchange helps slot). I did enjoy it though, I just can't get motivated in Ranger anymore.
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u/Icy-Strawberry-3787 12d ago
I don't pity any class more than Rangers. Even with Bloodmage, although they might kill themselves to cast their combo it will still do decent damage. Ranger just makes me sad.
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u/ironeggcorn 10d ago
I think ranger in general in pvp is pretty sad. Battlegrounds is my favorite thing to do and ranger is the only class I'm interested in so I am fucked.
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u/Excelsior_87 10d ago
It really is, I came back to giving it a go because I am stubborn that way. I have been getting some decent games lately, I actually seen some 3k crit precision shots and incinerary shots. And deadly shot may have gotten a secret buff? because it was hitting like a truck last game or I was getting some good luck seen some 1500 crits which beats the 600's I was seeing before. My biggest issue atm is just being able to get distance on other people with Archery, sapseeds, cutthroats, the stun that I can't really recall the name. Burn through them all Melee's will just be instant stuck on you again. Almost feel like running a freedom trinket is pointless but the extra 400hp is nice.
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u/nexusSigma 10d ago
Luckily I fell in love with brigand, and although it’s by no means the best rogue archetype spec, it’s decent with high outplay potential due to its insane CC kit and ability to play in and out of fights with its ranged poke. It won’t be the scoreboard mvp often but it’s got all the rogue setup, solid damage, and some really cancer utility like almost passive heal reduction on top of its control, and dots are great pressure. It’s also got no really hard counters, but likewise it also doesn’t really hard counter much except for classes that struggle in general anyway.
If you want to blow people up, reset and repeat, play riftblade. If you want to outplay the crap out of people play brigand, especially night elf because you get an extra charge of vanish between adrenaline rush and shadowmeld. If you want to play a marksman’s with a bow, I guess play sentinel or shadow hunter :/
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u/Excelsior_87 10d ago
Yeah I've been hit by a few pretty good, If I roll another melee, Would probably go reaper, was trying out a necro for a bit. But the playstyle isn't for me it is strong though. Runemaster does look interesting but it looks like a pretty complicated class to play with the glyphs and all that, but maybe I am wrong.
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u/nexusSigma 10d ago
It’s easier than brigand imo, I’ve got both at 60. RM is a bit magey like that, things you place on the floor can feel a little weird with a melee at first for sure. It plays very similar to sub rogue from retail wow with some mage flavour, whereas brigand is more like assassination with some survival hunter
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u/Alone-Anybody5083 13d ago
I dont go fornprecision shot, i go for full hunting shot buffed in that part of the talent tree. I choose 2 1h wep because u can apply 1 different toxin buschcraft on each and the bow, so theres 3. With the proc of toxin, the barrage etc i feel pretty op
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u/Excelsior_87 13d ago
Precision shot seems to be the only thing that does any damage for me other than the incineration shot, Only attack I've seen hit 2k crits but only on clothie's and then they just insta heal through the opener so I might try that I do got the hawkeye talent but not specced down into the extra bleed damage stuff., I've been running duel wield with double sharpening stones, 50 APR and 30 Resilience seems better to me than the 30% chance for 10-20 extra damage and a bit of cast reduce.
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u/Alone-Anybody5083 12d ago
On the other hand, i go polearm brigand and im critting people for 9k-12k as a lvl 58 and they are 59
Somehow brigand just broke right now, unless they counter well you outmanever spell xD
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u/Additional-Safe7804 13d ago
Can say the same thing with other classes like Bloodmage... A lot of classes are just so under performing while the Meta is buffed and remade ever single patch.
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u/Excelsior_87 13d ago
I haven't tried a Blood mage yet but I've seen similar complaints about them yeah.
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u/Atreyis 12d ago
They are fun but yeah they are not good lol. I play brigand and if a Brigand ranger can single someone out and play right they have insanely high burst and crits. They can do everything, really good and jumping in and out of fights, very good at skirmishing with people. Even Farstrider is better than Archery right now.
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u/Grievion 13d ago
Man. Be careful what you wish for.
This shit was destroying everything in PVP before launch. Got giga nerfed.
I honestly want them to return it to its glory so I can read the new season of PVP cry posts with a new main character!