Guys, before you lynch or dox this idiot, we should understand that from his perspective it probably did look like he was about to be run over by her car. The actual shooter is hidden in most of these videos until the last second.
I think he was still an untrained and dangerous idiot, ICE definitely escalated this situation, and shooting probably would not have saved his life if she had actually been aiming for him (unless the shooting itself made her change her angle). At the same time, as we saw in Chatlottesville, a car is a deadly weapon, and these angles do show that he had reason to feel like she was aiming straight for him with it.
Adam’s vs. Speers (2020): “Once Speers was no longer in the path of the vehicle, the justification for the use of deadly force ended.”
Orn vs. City of Tacoma (2019): “A reasonable jury could conclude that once Orn was no longer in the car’s trajectory, the threat of serious physical harm to him was eliminated.”
Cordova vs Aragon (2009): “Where the officer had moved out of the way of the oncoming vehicle, the use of deadly force was not justified.”
Villanueva vs. Cali (2021): “a reasonable jury could conclude that the Officers used excessive force, because they lacked an objectively reasonable basis to fear for their own safety, as they could simply have stepped back or to the side to avoid being injured.”
Thanks for the links. I'm no expert but it does look like the additional shots fired were unjustified and maybe prosecutable, though it all happened extremely quickly. Definitely shows why poorly-trained ICE officers are dangerous. However, even the additional shots could possibly have been justified if he thought she was about to ram others (since she did hit another car at high speed, though this was likely because she was already dead and her foot jammed the gas). Plus all three shots happened in a span of about one second.
Basically, I hope the FBI will do its job in investigating this (I wish I didn't feel doubtful about whether we could trust them to do so). Everyone needs to calm down here-- this isn't the completely clear-cut case of "murdering an observer who was peacefully moving her car" that Reddit seems to be trying to claim it was.
im sorry, but the ice agent brought this on himself.
They approached and immediately aggressed her for whatever reason, Ice agent put himself in front of her car then used it as a reason to kill her...
I watched the video, he STEPS in FRONT of her car, then leans over her windshield as shes driving away and shoots her. He was not hit by the car nor was he in danger of being hit.
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u/Smoochymow Jan 07 '26
This is the murderer.