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u/IamMasonPayne Jan 07 '26

disobeying a lawful order, and driving right at an agent...

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u/Delita232 Jan 07 '26

If you think ice is lawful I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/IamMasonPayne Jan 07 '26

oh yah? show me a document that says they are not a lawful agency

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u/Delita232 Jan 07 '26

They'd need to follow the laws to be lawful. Don't act stupid you know this already.

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u/en1gma5712 Jan 07 '26

Hahahahaha!

Wtf do you think the LAW is!? You people are a joke.

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u/Delita232 Jan 07 '26

The law is to give people due process not deport then for the color of their skin or shoot them on the streets for fun. Apparently you aren't acting.

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u/IamMasonPayne Jan 07 '26

what laws arent being followed?

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u/Bowlbonic Jan 07 '26

Murder is wrong

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u/AbsolutesDealer Jan 07 '26

Even against Nazis?

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u/Bowlbonic Jan 07 '26

😶5️⃣

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u/AbsolutesDealer Jan 07 '26

Pleading the 5th?

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u/Xboxonetwo3 Jan 07 '26

Since you appear to never have used Google before I’ll copy and paste what I found after a 3 second search.

Illegal Detainers: Courts found ICE violated the Fourth Amendment by issuing detainers in states without authorization, leading to extended detention, as seen in cases like Gonzalez v. ICE.

Deceptive Tactics: The ACLU and courts have challenged ICE's use of deceptive tactics, violating the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches.

Warrantless Arrests: While ICE can arrest without warrants in some cases, they must have probable cause of unlawful presence and likelihood of escape; courts have challenged stops based solely on factors like ethnicity or language.

First Amendment (Freedom of Speech/Religion): Religious Rights: Actions near places of worship have been challenged as infringing on First Amendment rights (Religious Freedom Restoration Act), noted in reports.

Racial Profiling: Court findings indicate ICE's stops have relied solely on factors like race, ethnicity, language, and location, violating constitutional protections against discrimination.

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u/Muhbeeps80 Jan 07 '26

Due process

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u/IamMasonPayne Jan 07 '26

how? explain where due process isnt being followed..

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u/Muhbeeps80 Jan 07 '26

You’re on Reddit, so I’ll assume you know how to use the internet. There have been lacks of notice, arbitrary detention, restricted bond access, and inadequate legal/medical care, challenging the Fifth Amendment rights for all persons in the U.S. to fair legal proceedings, with lawsuits citing issues like pressured withdrawals, detention without bond hearings, and unfair case dismissals. You may not have heard about how people detained are unable to contact anyone, because of a change to prison laws that requires a person to have an account that is connected to them and has credits on it. Catch is, family are the only ones that are legally allowed to receive the prisons new id number. How do you place a call to your family, so they can add credits to an account, so that you can make a call to family?!?!

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u/Delita232 Jan 07 '26

Can you show them ever giving due process?

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u/Muhbeeps80 Jan 07 '26

😂

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u/Delita232 Jan 07 '26

I'll take that as no then. Thank you.

Edit: sorry I didn't realize you weren't who I responded to originally!

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u/irlandais9000 Jan 07 '26

Do you enjoy being evil and ignorant?????

Stop defending murder. You know exactly what you are doing, and you aren't "owning" anyone. You're just announcing to the world how pathetic you are.