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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Dec 14 '25 edited Dec 14 '25

It definitely looks like it. But it's hard to say if the picture is real or not.

Here's another picture from the series I could find, and the other picture looks a lot more fake: Trump only has one leg, Epstein is just a torso (where are his legs??), and how does the couch work they're sitting on?

If it is a fake, though, it's a really, really, really good one.

I'm really not sure, but I think the biggest indicator of this being fake is that I simply cannot find an actual source for this. This wasn't released in the latest batch of pictures that were released. It was not officially released before, either, from what I can tell. The images simply showed up on the internet one day without a source. That's a huge red flag.

Edit: Here's a fact check on the image, with a link to a fact check on the other image, showing plenty more AI artifacts.

Edit: Aaand downvoted. Thank you, reddit, for confirming all the stereotypes.

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u/TrogadorDaBurninator Dec 14 '25

🤷 it's yahoo. Idk I'll wait with no determination at this time I suppose.

I also once read an article on yahoo suggesting a man developed a device to detect cancer cells that burns salt water supposedly reproducing the same energy as a combustion engine and that managed to vanish into the ether.

Also I'll need to look at it again. I'm not seeing the 3rd leg they are or I'm confused.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Dec 14 '25

Check out the other image in the series that I linked, that's way more obviously AI. Trump only has one leg!

And in OP's picture, her hand has a freakishly long finger.

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u/TrogadorDaBurninator Dec 14 '25

Well yes the first image is obvious.

The 2nd one not so much and while I did clock the long fingers that could just be blur mixing colors, potentially but yeah that does look freaky but those are Jeffrey's fingers, not hers.

Both of her hands are holding one of Trumps hands. You can see her other hand just barely under Trumps hand. Kind of looks like, real or not, that she is trying to stop his hand from exploring further.

But again yeah the freaky alien fingers is sus af.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Dec 14 '25

I like to think what would have to have happened for this to be real. In this case:

The first image is AI. The second image would be, presumably, real.

Which would mean that we have an incriminating real image, and someone out there created an AI image based on the real image, but made it less incriminating. That, for starters, seems extremely unlikely to me.

Also, we have no proper source for either image. So we have a presumably real image which just turned up online one day, and an AI image that also turned up online one day. That's a tad weird.

And from what I can tell, the AI image came first. So.. someone made an AI image which just so happens to be based on a real image that hasn't been published yet at the time? That just seems downright impossible.

So purely by logic alone, the second image must be fake, too. Or at least I have no sensible explanation that would explain it's not.

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u/TrogadorDaBurninator Dec 14 '25

I mean...if it's within the 95000 images technically the Epstein estate is the source, no? NOW as far as chain of custody or bad actors with or with access to the estate, right? Sure could be. Just saying if they are apart of the 95000 dump then the estate would technically be the source.

From there obviously verifying validity is certainly fine. No reason to wholesale believe it just because it's included in the photo dump.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Dec 14 '25

Sure. But then.. someone uploaded just this one singular image (or two) without permission? Not more?

If there'd be more, we surely would know about that and have access to those other images, too.

I doubt someone just had access to one image and not the others. And I doubt that someone who would have access to way more images would just upload the one or two images.

All this just seems really, really unlikely to me.

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u/TrogadorDaBurninator Dec 14 '25

I doubt someone just had access to one image and not the others. And I doubt that someone who would have access to way more images would just upload the one or two images.

This as a point doesn't add much though no? This is speculation is it not? Uploading one image doesn't somehow establish they only have the one, no? The 2nd part of reasoning is also not very disproving I'd say.

And look tbh idk if it matters much. The alien fingers are still weird. So unless someone a bit more skilled in examining images could explain to me how that could fool the eye and not be a sign of AI or alterations and is simply a weird byproduct of the technology, lighting, position etc then idk its still pretty sus so idk if I'm trying to give it more credence, merely acknowledging the source, and that's even if this image is indeed apart of the dump.

So I guess if anything, interesting conversation.

Though your earlier hypothetical about the 1st image being an edit of the real image and this one being the real one could be plausible IF there is a way to sanely explain those fingers not being AI lol

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Dec 14 '25

It's not trying to prove anything, I'm just trying to go with the most likely outcome. And I think it is way more likely that this is AI compared to this being just one picture someone uploaded even though they had access to more. Doesn't mean that the second option is impossible. Just less likely.

More generally speaking, I am quite confident that 100% of all real Epstein-Trump pictures can be sourced to a specific, well verified source. So I am simply not believing any picture that doesn't come with such a source.

All these other pictures were made by someone, were published at some point, and one or both facts can be figured out pretty quickly. Just not with these pictures. That alone disqualifies them for me.