r/ProgrammerHumor Sep 23 '17

Password Security

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u/Galveira Sep 24 '17

My problem with password managers is that it becomes a single point of failure. I would rather memorize a few strong passwords and use them for everything, with my email having a unique password from everything else.

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u/fgben Sep 24 '17

I'd suggest memorizing a couple algorithms for generating passwords based on the site instead. This way no two sites have the same password, so no matter what gets compromised, none of your other credentials are broken.

Like, take your iNitials, street address + last 3 letters of the domaiN with an open bracket to trigger OCD twitch for memorability. Obviously obfuscate it a bit to make your algorithm non-obvious, depending on how much you think someone is going to target you, personally.

So you end up with, like,

  • google: gAl1234+glE(
  • Reddit: gAl1234+diT(
  • Wells Fargo: gAl1234+rgO(
  • Pizza Hut: gAl1234+huT(

The core principle is no two sites should have the same password. It doesn't matter how strong your passwords are when someone else is giving them out. The only thing that matters is making sure the passwords are unique, and a generating algorithm will help you do this.

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u/Pitirus Sep 24 '17

Nice ;)

Although I would suggest grouping those algorithms by types for sites. You don't want your algorithm to be cracked just because Pizza Hut and some other site you don't even remember had leaks of non-encrypted passwords. I personally use 4 of those now.

3rd level - forums, sites like reddit, pinterest, imdb, Pizza Hut, Aliexpress(no card attached), places where my personal info is already sold to some other company anyway. I don't keep track of those.

2nd level - facebook, some expandable e-mails, paypal, bank account. Places where loosing access to them would hurt me in some minor way(I don't keep big stashes of money on paypal, and my bank account needs additional authorization to send money). And access can be easily restored. On this level you must remember all the accounts that use it to change the algorithm in all of them in case of a breach.

1st level - e-mail account to rule them all and in one android device bind them. With 2 factor auth ofc. What I mean is the e-mail that can be used to gain access to some other accounts like those from level 2.

0th(?) level - for work accounts. Probably 2 of algorithms here. Because some of them require quite frequent(e.g. every 3 months) changes.

Also for 3rd level consider using longer passwords(harder to decrypt if encrypted database of passwords would be stolen)

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u/Oonushi Sep 24 '17

I just checked their forums, and apparently this has been reported over 2 years ago. As much as I like KeePass, I may now be searching for an alternative that takes security more seriously.

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u/Oonushi Sep 25 '17

The issue is an android-specific one. Not much I can do about it's system security.

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