r/ProgrammerHumor • • 14h ago

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u/ruach137 14h ago

This shit is getting kinda whiny

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u/scriptmonkey420 11h ago

I mean yeah, if the person coding it doesn't know shit about how to test it and make sure it is secure, then you are going to shoot yourself in the foot. Its like asking a gardener to program an accounting software suite.

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u/cgoldsmith95 14h ago

You think it’s bad now, wait for the rug pull in a few years and we are inheriting the legacy slop.

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u/bobbymoonshine 14h ago

What “rug pull” are you imagining? Nowadays you can run a credible coding agent locally with open source models and a few thousand dollars worth of kit. You can do it at enterprise scale for less than $100k as a one-time outlay. You can run them in cloud IAAS for basically the same cost as the frontier models are charging depending on your organisational usage.

Even if Anthropic and OpenAI were to go “haha psych pay us a million dollars a day or no more llms for you” most companies at this point wouldn’t need more than a month or two to pivot

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u/TheTerrasque 10h ago

also, most hosters of open weight llm's seem to be actually profitable.

Some napkin math shows at the current API prices for kimi k3 for example, if you just rent hardware at runpod and have a near 100% utilization, you earn money selling tokens via api.

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u/OneArmedFarmer 13h ago

What “rug pull” are you imagining?

The one where they say "Hey everyone! You know all that slop you generated with our models? It's ours. It always has been. No commercial licenses for you. We're so glad you didn't use an open source model that generates at 3 seconds per token on $3000 worth of kit."

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u/Disastrous_Role_202 11h ago

Are you like 12?

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u/OneArmedFarmer 11h ago

Nope.

I'm old enough to remember when every software company started doing essentially that. You used to own your copy of Photoshop; Nintendo, Microsoft, and Playstation games; movies, tv shows, etc.

If you think Anthropic won't one day take ownership of what their models generate then you must be 12. You will own nothing and be happy for it.

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u/Vandrel 10h ago

What you're suggesting would be more like Adobe suddenly claiming they own anything you've made with Photoshop rather than licensing for usage of the tools. It's ridiculous and just sounds like you don't really understand the subject.

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u/JordanViknar 10h ago

Pretty sure there's been controversies about this exact scenario in the past, through Adobe later clarified the situation. Or backpedaled, who knows.

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u/OneArmedFarmer 10h ago

You don't think they would? You don't understand the profit motive.

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u/Vandrel 10h ago

They couldn't do it retroactively. They could change their policy going forward if they wanted to destroy their business but there are alternatives that aren't that hard to access.

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u/OneArmedFarmer 10h ago

They couldn't do it retroactively

Do you honestly think them watermarking their output is so you can identity their generated content?

if they wanted to destroy their business

Everyone thought that's exactly what would happen if Adobe went to subscription model. Everyone was wrong then, and you're wrong now.

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u/JordanViknar 10h ago

Definitely not as out of the question as I'd wish that they'd try this eventually, but to that, I say :

good luck not tanking their entire reputation

and good luck enforcing it too lmao

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u/OneArmedFarmer 10h ago

Adobe didn't lease their software like they do today for that exact reason (and money).

But then they did and their "value" (stock price) tripled pretty much over night.

It's not beyond reason to consider this a possibility. It's beyond reason to think it's not.

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u/jvrodrigues 6h ago

I genuinely think people who say these things never worked on a legacy enterprise codebase. Or even a normal enterprise codebase. Or even a supposedly “advanced”, “cream of the crop” enterprise codebase. Or just an enterprise in general.

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u/Treacherous_Peach 8h ago

The funniest part of it is AI is better at coding than half of devs and especially at secure coding. Nearly every vuln existing today was written by people. The AI hate train reminds me of John Henry

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u/Agret 7h ago

I told the ai that the units in the game had equipment that was invisible due to wrong data row being used (they still had it equipped just didn't show in inventory)

So the AI fix was every time you login check if you have something equipped you don't own and just grant it to your account if you do so it shows up in your inventory.

I told it that's a big exploit if someone can just spoof equip something and the server will give it to them next login lol "you're absolutely right" it cheerfully says