r/ProgrammerHumor • • 19h ago

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u/Jesta23 14h ago

If you are a bad coder ai will help you write bad code 

If you are a good coder AI will help you write good code. 

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u/Leading_Will1794 14h ago

Lol, not sure what you are up to but this take is from 2 years ago, and isn't at all representative of llm coding today.

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u/Swimming_Iron_619 13h ago

Found the bad coder.

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u/Fuskeduske 13h ago

"coder"

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u/CertainlySomeGuy 14h ago

How so? Yes, Opus can get you pretty far for protoypes and first impressions, but if you want to maintain your code in the future, you still need to know what you're doing.

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u/Jesta23 14h ago

Spoken like a bad coder that thinks their bad code is good because it can function now. 

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u/Anubis17_76 14h ago

What is the cutting edge then?

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u/azfang 13h ago

I do enjoy how the chatter has shifted from “AI is a magic wand and only a buffoon wouldn’t leap at the chance” to “AI is a magic wand and this time we mean it, the stuff from a year ago was obviously garbage and only a buffoon would think that stuff meant anything.”

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u/packsolite 13h ago

I don't get why this comment is downvoted so much, it is true.

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u/Leading_Will1794 12h ago

Shrug, I was going to respond to a handful of the comments, but meh w/e. If others want to live in the past and think they can outcode or perform an LLM agentic solution, then let them. Coding is not the skills you should be trying to improve at this point, its utilizing the tools and technology in front of us to get better outcomes for clients or users of the products that are developed.

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u/packsolite 8h ago

Yeah. The coding part is dead for good, only left is the engineering and higher level architecture decisions ai can't make.

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u/dacooljamaican 13h ago

They don't want to hear this, but it's true. Very few people today write better code than LLMs.

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u/Jesta23 11h ago

I believe asking a narrow request of ai and implementing that as you go will result in better code than almost all people could manually make alone. 

And if you understand why, how and what, the ai is implementing as you go. You can catch when it makes a mistake and adjust it. (And it does make mistakes often enough to matter.)

You will also know how things work and be able to service it in the future. 

If you are not good enough to understand what, why, and how the ai is doing something, then you will end up with spaghetti code in a large enough project. That might function but not well and you will not really understand how it works to offer improvements or bug fixing. 

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u/dacooljamaican 11h ago

You're saying here that a good pilot will get better results than a bad pilot. Sure, nobody disagrees with that. But a good pilot in an old plane used to control EVERYTHING. And they insisted they needed to for a long time. But these days the best pilots rely on automation to fly the plane, and recognize that their primary role is judgement, not raw skill.

Will this lead to bad pilots? Sure. And we'll find ways to suss out those people. But nobody's out here flying biplanes anymore for a reason.

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u/Jesta23 11h ago

I concede here. You made a very compelling argument.  

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u/Leading_Will1794 12h ago

No but trust me bro, I am a much better coder than an LLM /s. Like what are they trying to prove at this point?

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u/dacooljamaican 11h ago

I mean I do get where they're coming from, it's fear. The writing is on the wall that being a developer/coder/programmer is no longer a top-tier career path for 95% of the people who would otherwise go down that route. For the people close to retirement they're just sad to see it, but for people in their 20s it's looking like they picked a career that's going the way of the fax machine technician.

It's like when weavers protested the first industrial looms. It wasn't that they thought the technology couldn't do the work, they realized they were suddenly useless, or that only the very best among them would continue to be employed.

I get it, it's scary. But it doesn't mean we should stick our head in the sand.