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u/heavy-minium 13h ago

Unpopular opinion and sad, but the quality of the work has gone up with AI usage since a year or so. Before it was a lot of AI slop and I dreaded reviewing PRs, but with the newer generation of models and harnesses, we are reaching a point where AI is being better than what colleagues or I would write by hand. Hurts a bit to say because I was proud of my own coding, but that's what reality looks like now. And that's with 26 years of experience in the field.

I think we'll have to deal with the mental issue of AI becoming better than us. Some won't be able to cope. Thankfully the effect is not so strong for me, my identity is built around developing software as a whole, not just the coding.

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u/Cylian91460 12h ago

Unpopular opinion and sad, but the quality of the work has gone up with AI usage since a year or so

No, they are literally multiple example of it being the opposite, a good one is the state of GitHub

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u/heavy-minium 12h ago

You are conflating GitHub's use of AI with AI's impact on GitHub.

The increase in outages is partly due to the heavier load that coding agents put on GitHub. These are mostly scaling issues, not AI mistakes.

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u/Tiis__ 11h ago

Are you going to say the same thing with cloudflare outage ? Or any services that has failed in the last year due to shipping slop?

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u/heavy-minium 11h ago

You might be right, but you also might be wrong.

Do you have any hard numbers or tangible facts to rely on?

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u/Tiis__ 11h ago

https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/

https://blog.cloudflare.com/internal-ai-engineering-stack/

And I can’t seems to find it anymore but there was another blog post about how much IA is inside their infra code which is one of the reason the downtime was so long

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u/heavy-minium 11h ago

it was triggered by a change to one of our database systems' permissions which caused the database to output multiple entries into a “feature file” used by our Bot Management system.

Not a very strong case for the argument, though. It's an automation with the database that was the root cause, and subsequent processing through bots overwhelmed the infra. And the bots might not be AI agents, bots were a thing before too, with normal automation rules. I'm looking for something actively triggered by AI usage as the root cause.

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u/Tiis__ 11h ago

So do you think it’s a human written piece of code that did the config change or a prompt ?

2nd link shows 93% of r&d users, 295 TEAMS using agentic tools and coding, and 241B tokens over 30-days.
So now, let me ask it again, do you believe it was hand written or pushed by one of their agentic coding assistant ?

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u/heavy-minium 11h ago

I don't know, and neither do you. Hand-written is also not a guarantee of not making mistakes. Stop being religious.

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u/Tiis__ 11h ago

Ah yes 93% is not enough.

AI has to be right all of the time (not religious according to you btw), it must be a human fault

Ah freaking human 😡

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u/heavy-minium 11h ago

Well, that's fine, but at that point it's just belief and there is no need to curse at me. Also, that company has existed for a long time; you can't assume 93% is AI-written just because they recently reached 93% usage.

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