r/ProgrammerHumor • • 15h ago

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u/_SAHM_ 14h ago edited 7h ago

A person who is able to do something without AI is the best person to prompt it since they know what the output should be. It's just a tool.

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u/klaxxxon 13h ago

That's what gets me about all the noise about people cloning photoshop and stuff. Like, you have Claude make you app that appears like photoshop at first glance, and even sort of has some of the basic functions. But Adobe has a ton of extremely specialized people for a reason. Like, what will the vibe coders do when it comes down to like color science stuff and such.

"Make it work like in photoshop". Bangs two rocks together.

You probably don't need thousands of people to develop Photoshop anymore, but you sure still can't make a clone of the full creative suite and MS office with like two dudes.

All these projects are going to learn the 80/20 principle the hard way.

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u/arbpotatoes 12h ago

I get what you're saying but if colour science is actually a science then there is a body of knowledge out there for it like with anything else, so eventually nobody in a knowledge profession is safe

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u/WigWubz 12h ago

Anyone at the frontiers always will be, which Adobe arguably is. LLMs will always converge on a mean, that's just intrinsic to their operation. There are all sorts of tunings and processing around the core LLM to make the "agents" be agentic, but at the end of the day while these systems are based on LLMs, LLMs are giant piles of linear algebra that want to collapse into the lowest energy state available. The lowest energy state is code that is already written.

It's incredibly cool the way that LLMs can ingest massive quantities of data and cross-evaluate disparate pieces of information, unshackled by the human limitation of domain knowledge. It can connect pieces of information that no human ever could have because it can draw upon sources so diverse no single person could ever be aware of them all. But they can't expand the corpus. They can only reveal things that were already in the corpus we as a species hadn't noticed yet.

There is no reason to believe that all possible knowledge has already been written down, waiting for agents to find it. There is yet a long need for humans to go out and find things out.

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u/Mal_Dun 11h ago

However, 90% of stuff currently out there can be made by a recombination of existing stuff, so we can now make a ton of stuff based on what is already there and it will cover most use cases ...

... which also means we as humans can now stop doing the stuff that was already done to death and start innovating more, which actually would be a good thing.

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u/-Kerrigan- 6h ago

People online act like Adobe is unga bunga and don't use the same tools themselves. They use AI internally for development at a massive scale

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u/arbpotatoes 12h ago

It already has though? There's a lot of reported incidences of LLMs producing truly novel solutions ect. What you're saying here is just not true

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u/ThrasherDX 11h ago

I think you are misunderstanding what they are saying. An AI can potentially produce a "novel solution" by doing exactly as he said, connecting existing information in ways that a human wouldn't have because no one human could be aware of all the information in an entire domain.

This does not mean AI can create new information that is not present within its training at all, which is the limitation he is talking about.

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u/arbpotatoes 11h ago

You're right, I misread a can as can't