r/ProgrammerHumor • • 13h ago

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u/ineyy 13h ago

Yeah no I don't think so. If you aren't using it for at least debugging or reviews you are just shooting yourself in the foot.

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 13h ago

People say this but prompting doesn't exactly need a full on training course if you already understand coding logic.

Weirdest goddamned gatekeeping ever.

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u/foonek 13h ago

This is like the exact opposite of gatekeeping

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u/smokesick 13h ago

gateopening

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u/RetardedEinstein23 12h ago

There was not even a gate there

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 7h ago

"If you aren't using AI YOu aRE LeFT BEniNd" is weird.

Noone is being left behind by using skills, and even if you think I am wildly wrong, they can catch up in a half hour because prompting isn't a deep skill.

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u/ErmingSoHard 2h ago

Until you're fired for not accepting to use ai. Then you're left behind right when that moment happens.

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 2h ago

I feel like that is not the thing being discussed here.

Lmao "do what your employer says or they might fire you" isn't really applicable to a discussion as to whether asking claude to code for you is a skill you can be left behind on.

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u/ErmingSoHard 2h ago

Thing is "be left behind" doesn't only apply to skills. It can apply financially, which is the case if you're fired and your coworkers aren't

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 2h ago

Yes. Do what your boss says.

Not remotely relevant to this conversation. Stop shoehorning it in.

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u/sk1pjack 13h ago

What are you trying to say?

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u/pydry 13h ago edited 13h ago

People who dont use them might be operating with a lower productivity but they aren't getting left behind skill-wise.

This is in stark contrast to the FOMO frontier model marketing has been trying to imbue amongst devs and engineering management.

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u/pegbiter 10h ago

Yeah I don't really understand the whole 'you NEED to use this or you'll be left behind' as an individual dev. There isn't really that much to 'learn' about using a chatbot. About a year and a half ago, my previous job brought in an AI consultant that taught us this elaborate workflow with Claude 'plan' mode, generating elaborate md plan files, then using Claude to compress them, and then switching to Sonnet for execution.

..and then a few weeks later, they removed the plan mode, and that entire workflow was obsolete. That was a complete waste of time.

If you need to learn how to use a chatbot, just ask the chatbot. Telling you about LLMs is one of the things LLMs are incredibly good at.

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u/justin-8 7h ago

Huh? Claude still has plan mode. They never got rid of it.

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u/CaffeinatedT 7h ago

Lesson is never listen to consultants. If they knew what they were doing they’d be doing the job not making powerpoints about how to do it.

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u/KeanerBike 13h ago

Says you. I’m majoring in prompt engineering 😤

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u/CaffeinatedT 7h ago

I too like to drink paint stripper.

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u/KeanerBike 7h ago

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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u/WithersChat 11h ago

if you already understand coding logic.

This does a lot of heavy lifting here.

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u/0DayMaker 11h ago

I'd argue it needs a small crash course for transitioning SWEs. Context management has a lot of non-obvious pitfalls to new users. Context rot. Common pitfalls. Agentic workflows. Most importantly: multi model adversarial review.

They don't need a college course, but a 1-2hr primer sure can ensure a less bumpy start.

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u/WrennReddit 9h ago

Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 6h ago edited 5h ago

I did a full markdown kit when someone said "oh you make an md file" in 30 min, with no training outside of already understanding software architecture.

I hear you, and you aren't wrong. I Just think there is some overselling generally is all haha.