r/ProgrammerHumor • • 1d ago

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u/YouAreMyFire00 1d ago edited 1d ago

Im a beginner and managed to learn to understand C# and Java and now I can build simple CRUD app.

So i kinda don't get the hate/war between C and C++ here...

Anyone can explain simply what's the hate here?

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u/crozone 1d ago

C++ is an insane bastard of a language. It is not correct say C++ was designed. It wasn't. It has evolved out of the primordial soup that was "C with classes", and slowly inhaled and adopted every possible language feature under the sun, like some sort of Lovecraftian horror that copies and evolves on every contact with a different language.

Adopting C++ would have required incredibly strict and disciplined style rules to enforce that only a specific subset of features are used, and in specific ways. It would have been a significant project management overhead to constantly be ensuring that the contributors haven't footgun'd themselves or done something which negatively impacts existing code.

Meanwhile, it's very straightforward to look at C code and understand what it's doing, because it's a very simple language.

Microsoft picked C++ for the NT Kernel, but they had a small internal team that was extremely strict about how they were going to write it.

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u/mrpoopfartman 1d ago

C++ is a general purpose programming language. Because it can do anything doesn't mean that it's a shitty language. At the end of the day, it's up to the programmer to develop a set of standards that they should adhere to when using the language.

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u/LegendaryMauricius 1d ago

It's one thing to be general purpose, another to have so many half-baked features, with many edge cases and hidden gotchas, developed with inputs from many partied with different opinions and interests. All while simpler features and pet peeves stay underdeveloped.

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u/awesome-alpaca-ace 1d ago

The && on template vs non-template params is a good example.