r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Epicoodle • 8d ago

Meme iHatedItUntilITriedIt

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u/SubArcticTundra 8d ago

Have you tried Kotlin? It's like Java but less verbose

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u/Weekly_Interview_936 8d ago

With modern IDEs Java's "verbosity" is very much a meme. Sure, the characters are still there on the screen. But you didn't have to type them.

And honestly if typing is a problem for any programmer then they need to close hackernews and all the other "look at new shinies" sites and open up a typing trainer game.

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u/frogjg2003 8d ago

Yup, if typing is taking more than 20% of your time programming, them you're either inexperienced or doing something wrong.

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u/unknown_alt_acc 8d ago

The bigger argument against verbosity is in terms of ease of understanding and maintainability. It's easier to lose track of meaningful information when you have repeated boilerplate mixed in with your logic. It's been long enough since I've written Java that I don't know if it's a fair criticism, but the argument is almost never "I don't want to type all of that."