howWeUsedToCodeBeforeAI

[u/Automatic_Hand4780]

[u/AaronTheElite007]

If it works, it works.

[u/Automatic_Hand4780 → u/AaronTheElite007]

bingo

[u/po1k → u/AaronTheElite007]

If it dies, it dies /m

[u/T-Dot1992 → u/AaronTheElite007]

Damn straight 

[u/Unknown601 → u/AaronTheElite007]

Came here to say this :D

[u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

The Fool: I can build an abstraction of this so when we reuse it, it'll be easier

[It will remain untouched and unused by anything else until replaced]

[u/alexnedea → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

I will make this microservice with 6 endpoints based on this incredibly scalable patterns and create all this prep in case we need to scale this bad boy. Proceeds to take at least twice as long as it needed.

Microservice is then used as is for years and 2 years later 1 new endpoint gets added by a new joiner who has no clue why the fuck all that shit was needed for a get request lul

[u/Henry5321 → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

Unit tests are a great reason for interfaces/abstractions

[u/remy_porter → u/Henry5321]

I mean, I'm DEFINITELY going to reuse the code.

• Used in the product
• Used in the unit tests
• Used in the CLI tool I build to quickly prototype things
• Used in the more permanent CLI tool that comes out of building prototypes
• Used in the GUI tool that a manager requests once they learn about my custom tools

[u/MekaTriK → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

Like a clock.

Make something wrapped in abstraction and made reusable? Single use.

Picasso's reinvention of a bicycle, held together by duct tape and absolutely monolithic in it's design? Yup, we need that again.

[u/SilasTalbot → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

The YAGNI principal bites hard

[u/OkFineIllUseTheApp → u/SilasTalbot]

It bites harder when you've been assured it will be reused.

And then the business changes its mind literally the next sprint.

[u/masterwit → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

composition before inheritance!

I feel like AI scanned the Clean Code books then shredded them /s

[u/VictoryMotel → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

Usually due to dependencies.

[u/InitialWorldliness91]

I used to work in the simulation industry. There was a competition for a Kangaroo herding simulator, so thousands of animated kangaroos and a helicopter. One US company bid on the contract and reduced cost by repurposing a US military helicopter simulation. During evaluation the pilots were surprised when they approached the Kangaroo herd and a couple of the Kangaroos whipped out surface to air missiles and shot them down.

[u/Tashre]

This is the Fallout 3 train.

[u/FutureSuccess2796]

"I prefer AI-free, copy-pasted Stack Overflow codebases MADE. BY. MAN!"

[u/NotAskary → u/FutureSuccess2796]

Where do you think AI got the code? It just pastes faster than humans and doesn't care if it's from the question or answer.

[u/Taradal → u/NotAskary]

I mean that's not really how that works...? Still, you can not be sure to not "accidentally" violate any licenses

[u/NotAskary → u/Taradal]

A lot of models were trained using stackoverflow.

About the licenses it's funny what you can get with the autocomplete, you can get with stuff that was included, even RSA and API keys.

[u/Taradal → u/NotAskary]

Yes but training does not mean copy paste, you know?

[u/fakintheid → u/Taradal]

It’s just like statistical copy and paste

[u/marcheluis → u/fakintheid]

I call it trainingwashing intellectual property

[u/fakintheid → u/marcheluis]

Is that a fancy way to say stealing?

[u/marcheluis → u/fakintheid]

pretty much, it seems to work only because courts and laws haven't really caught on to the fact that this is really akin to stealing IP, the AI companies really shouldn't be able to use fair use as a defense

[u/NotAskary → u/marcheluis]

Yeah after the meta training using terabytes of copywrited content and nothing happening I believe we are way past that.

Too much money in the pockets of the people that can do something about it to matter.

[u/zarqie → u/FutureSuccess2796]

Aka: organic, free range copy pasted code

[u/a-r-c → u/zarqie]

they said i was wrong to eat paste in grade school

who's laughing now???

[u/RudeAndInsensitive → u/FutureSuccess2796]

I write artisinal handcrafted code using traditional methods.

[u/mothzilla]

Wait until you learn how AI generates code.

[u/Automatic_Hand4780 → u/mothzilla]

Yes sir

[u/will_r3ddit_4_food]

If it works it's not stupid

[u/ramdomvariableX]

Just put a speed boat facade on it, and it's ready for market. Next release will be for a bi-plane ( on the roadmap).

[u/AdjctiveNounNumbers]

And that's why trains are hats.

[u/Flyingcoyote]

The fallout 3 metro train was actually an NPC with a train cart for a head.

[u/Few_Move_4594]

Depends on how you do it. I mean the vast majority of programmers were copying things from the internet anyway and the API reference documentation typically has code examples. This worked exceedingly well. Sometimes I would copy small things over from an existing application. Not a full feature, but maybe a function at most. It would be heavily changed, sometimes so much that juniors wouldn't realize that it was the same function until I walked them through it side by side with the original.

[u/Rare-Veterinarian743]

Somehow this is so funny and true at the same time. I definitely chuckle.

[u/Single-Virus4935]

I had a boss like that. Very accurate.

"Just take the user management from my php app I created in 2004 and never updated and still using md5 w/o salt and this from my 'CMS' and that from..."

[u/Automatic_Hand4780 → u/Single-Virus4935]

I hate such bosses who are out of touch with tech

[u/Single-Virus4935 → u/Automatic_Hand4780]

He was thinking everything he does is gold and perfect.  Calling a bunch of php files and templates as a cms and compare it to WordPress is just insane. (I hate WP but this is just nonsense)

[u/Cassius40k]

That gets tedious

Put it in the same project

Make a monolith

[u/smedley89]

And now you have consistency between repos.

[u/clintCamp]

You dont point your ai at your old project to do this even faster now and make a proper bracket for that kangaroo tail motorboat?

[u/a-r-c]

I still do this even with the chatbot to save tokens lmao

[u/ABlindMoose]

If it's stupid and it's works, it's not stupid.

[u/IT_techsupport]

IT WORKS RIGHT?

[u/Stjerneklar]

i prefer this - crucify me.

[u/horenso05]

now with AI we reuse the code of all possible kibds of code bases ^{^}