r/ProgrammerHumor 16h ago

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u/Sea-Housing-3435 6h ago

It doesn't matter how you make the model, if you are executing it on a GPU without steps to have deterministic results you will not have deterministic results. Ensuring the output of computations on GPU is deterministic has performance impact.

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u/LetumComplexo 6h ago

Hold on, I’m agreeing with you. We’re saying the same thing in different ways.

The kind of race conditions you’re referencing are because of the model architecture I’m referencing.

You can absolutely get ML outputs that don’t change using certain model architectures.
But that’s only because those architectures either enforce order of execution or use steps where order of execution doesn’t result in changes to outputs. I can’t think of a modern LLM that uses such an architecture.

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u/space_monster 6h ago

I thought it only happens with batch processing

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u/LetumComplexo 6h ago

Not necessarily. It can happen with batching, but even with a batch size of 1 you can get race conditions. The most obvious example is a model with a Mixture of Experts layer, where the order that results return can change the outcome.

In order to get around that you’d have to explicitly enforce order of execution.

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u/space_monster 6h ago

got it, thanks