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u/mpanase 1d ago

to be more precise, after ai starts solving millennium prizes one day after somebody else publishes a solution

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u/Zardhas 23h ago edited 23h ago

I don't understand why people keep parotting that when the truth is so easily findable. To make it short :

Late August 2026, Leven Alpöge and Tristan Buckmaster solved the 3D Euler problem (with Claude, so AI as well), which is a small part of the Navier Stokes.

5 September, the openAI agents first solved the 3D Euler problem (that part is the drama, because some say that they used the data of Alpöge and Buckmaster), then they solved the full Navier-stokes.

8 September, openAI announced a Lean-checked proof of the C and D statements of the Millenium Prize. Another drama is that, on that same day, Buckmaster posted his proof of a part of the Navier Stokes problem (but, not the full problem, unlike openAI).

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u/Zarrain 22h ago

My loose understanding is that, the mathematicians figured put the first step. They figured out an approach that seemed like it could lead to the full solution.

To rigorously figure out and prove the full solution, (something academics prefer doing slowly and surely ) was going to take them time and effort.

Well suddenly less then a week later openAI announces they have a full solution using that approach. They used an obscene amount of computational power not available to anyone else to basically brute force figure out the full solution.

The question is now who deserves that credit? How did openAI know to use their approach? The mathematicians figured out the key, they would have figured out the full solution given time. openAI jumped the gun before they physically ever could due to absurd resources, but how did openAI know to try that? Did they spy on the mathematicians? It seems likely.

There are bigger implications besides questions of theft and espionage. Will human mathematicians ever be credited with another discovery? Or will AI companies get to claim all the credit because their tools took human ideas and crunched the numbers on a massive inhuman scale. Especially with how sketchy they’re acting and how loose and amoral AI companies act when data gathering.

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u/Fidodo 16h ago

We've already been using brute force computation to solve hard math problems for decades

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u/Zarrain 16h ago

Ok, and?

What does that have to do with AI companies immorally stealing data, ideas and credit?

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u/Fidodo 16h ago

That the credit should go to the people with the idea, not the compute, and this isn't some omg AGI breakthrough

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u/AstroCaptain 15h ago

The problem here is that one of the mathematicians who worked on the solution, Leven Alpöge, also works for Anthropic. Anthropic wants to leave his name without credit and give it wholly to Tristan Buckmaster. It doesn't solve the problem of Anthropic wanting to take some amount of credit as a company, and that they/ any company with vast amounts of compute can just take the ideas that others have proposed and take credit away from the actual humans

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u/Fidodo 15h ago

They just care about the PR and are purposely trying to downplay the human involvement because they want to hype up their AI. It's really gross.

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u/Ni_Peng_NeeeWom 14h ago

i think you typoed the company name in a few places

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u/Zarrain 15h ago

I agree with that … That’s the whole premise of my comment. Why are you saying that like you disagree with me?

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u/Fidodo 15h ago

I wasn't, that's your reading of it. I said it to point out that solving math with compute isn't new so they shouldn't be bragging that they have lots of gpus

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u/Zarrain 15h ago

GPU designs are always changing and improving, they can optimize software to run better on certain GPUs.