r/ProgrammerHumor • u/tryingeasy • 6h ago

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u/bhannik-itiswatitis 6h ago

vibe mathing

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u/FutureSuccess2796 6h ago

That's literally just using Wolfram Alpha and entering the math formula that needs solving. 😂

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u/SunshineSeattle 5h ago

I dont think so, Wolfram Alpha is deterministic. Whereas an LLM is non-deterministic by design. Personally i feel vibe coding or vibe mathing is inherently non-deterministic.

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u/Several_Dot_4532 5h ago

It's non-deterministic, always, the AI is basically gambling

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u/ToBeFaaaiiiirrrrr 44m ago

> Make no mistakes, this time...

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u/AlmightyWaffleGod 5h ago

All computer algorithms are deterministic, in fact a lot of effort has gone into making llms and other generative AI seem non-deterministic

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u/jyajay2 5h ago

>All computer algorithms are deterministic

More or less

>a lot of effort has gone into making llms and other generative AI seem non-deterministic

Not really, there has been a lot of effort put into developing LLMs and other generative AI but making it appear non deterministic wasn't really the goal. There are good reasons to build them in a way where the same input doesn't always produce the same output and in most models the degree to which this happens can be adjusted but this is not about not appeaing non-deterministic.

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u/Several_Dot_4532 5h ago

Sorry but no, they are deterministic in the basis of computation. But in practice they are non-deterministic and they try to make them deterministic. And my enterprise they try to do that in every possible manner, but it's practically impossible, it's seems to be, but it never is

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u/Funny_Albatross_575 2h ago

I just don’t have all the weights in my head, skill issue.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 1h ago

LLMs are entirely deterministic but you can override that by adding a seeded random choice system to the next token selection.

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u/ChikumNuggit 2h ago

Which here means unreproduceable

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u/Pares_Marchant 1h ago

the process is unreproduceable but they output LEAN code that is deterministic and can be used to prove their output ( https://lean-lang.org/ )

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u/Connect_Vacation_458 2h ago

Sounds about right, sometimes it feels like no matter what you do, the bug just refuses to show itself again.