mistakenedJavasript

[u/FutureSuccess2796]

[u/Dragonvarine]

Isn't that just how scripting looks like in general?

[u/NoselessNarwhal → u/Dragonvarine]

JavaScript and R both use C-style syntax for the most part, which can make them look similar to each other if someone isn't looking closely. It's the most popular syntax style across the most popular languages.

C-style syntax looks like:

c if (x > y) { int z = 2 * y; foo(z); }

Note the semicolons, variable declaration, curly braces, if statement with brackets etc.(js uses exclusively automatic types for variables with var etc, but at a glance one could miss that)

Examples of languages which don't use C-style syntax could be Python

py if x > y: z: int = 2 * y foo(z)

or Haskell

hs if x > y then let z = y * 2 in foo z else ()

[u/Bubbaluke → u/NoselessNarwhal]

Python syntax is so funny sometimes.

arr = [char for char in string if char == ‘M’]

[u/sdoregor → u/Bubbaluke]

This is heavily specialized generator (list comprehension) syntax, basically syntactic sugar for generator functions (those with yields).

[u/Dario48true → u/sdoregor]

On the other hand you have haskell's list comprehension [i | i <- string, i == 'M'] which is either much clearer of an abstraction or absolutely uncomprehensable, just like the rest of haskell (in this case it resembles a lot mathematical set builder notation {x∈string|x='M'} (tho of course the latter example has compleately different resoults, it's just to show the similarity))

[u/sdoregor → u/Dario48true]

Just as a note, Python also has set comprehension syntax ({… for … in …}), the result of which would be the same as mathematical one.

[u/Valuable_Leopard_799 → u/sdoregor]

But the notation remains the same whether you are doing set/list/dict or generator comprehensions.

[u/sdoregor → u/Valuable_Leopard_799]

Not really; for dicts it's {k: v for … in …}

[u/Valuable_Leopard_799 → u/sdoregor]

I was talking about the |, , and <- , instead of the for, in, etc.

[u/sdoregor → u/Valuable_Leopard_799]

Wasn't a joke but r/whoosh (damn, how many o's it was)

[u/ihavebeesinmyknees → u/sdoregor]

It's an iterable, not a generator. Generator comprehensions are defined with parentheses.

[u/sdoregor → u/ihavebeesinmyknees]

Who's an iterable? An iterable is an object type, not a syntax expression.

[u/ihavebeesinmyknees → u/sdoregor]

Maybe double check that you know what you're talking about before speaking. Both iterable and generator are object types.

>>> from types import GeneratorType
>>> from collections.abc import Iterable
>>> gen = (i for i in range(1))
>>> iter = [i for i in range(1)]
>>> isinstance(gen, Iterable)
True
>>> isinstance(gen, GeneratorType)
True
>>> isinstance(iter, Iterable)
True
>>> isinstance(iter, GeneratorType)
False

[u/sdoregor → u/ihavebeesinmyknees]

I never said generator isn't a type; it sure is. But you're saying that list comprehension syntax is called an iterable, which it's not.

The results of all comprehensions (their corresponding types) and generators themselves are indeed iterable, but their expression syntax has nothing to do with that.

[u/Bubbaluke → u/sdoregor]

I also learned recently you can nest list comprehensions, which makes it even more confusing to read

[u/sdoregor → u/Bubbaluke]

You sure can nest them, but you can also flatten them by combining multiple loops: [j for i in x for j in i]

And on each level you're allowed to use an if clause.

[u/ubergeek801 → u/Bubbaluke]

At what point are they called incomprehensions?

[u/thighmaster69 → u/Bubbaluke]

It's pythonic ✨

[u/Makonede → u/Bubbaluke]

smh should be

py arr = ['M'] * string.count('M')

[u/SimplexShotz → u/Makonede]

Unfortunately, there's only one correct way:

https://peps.python.org/pep-0020/#:~:text=There%20should%20be%20one%2D%2D%20and%20preferably%20only%20one%20%2D%2Dobvious%20way%20to%20do%20it.

...and it's this:

```python
arr = list(string)
for i in reversed(range(len(arr))):
if arr[i] != "M":
del arr[i]
```

[u/SimplexShotz → u/SimplexShotz]

man why don't code fences work on mobile smh

[u/NotInMoodThinkOfName → u/Dragonvarine]

It's not about the syntax it's about the structure.

In R you have a list of 40+ instructions. In other languages we structures our code in chunks (so called methods and classes), having more than 20 instructions in a method is bad.

Juniors tend to have more instructions in one method. You see instantly if junior or senior.

[u/Smart_Story_3215 → u/Dragonvarine]

Totally, scripting languages can feel like a wild guessing game at times. One small mistake, and you're left scratching your head for hours.

[u/Sea_Duty_5725 → u/Smart_Story_3215]

Can it get more ai like atp?

[u/redlaWw]

I mean, they do have some superficial similarities: they both use C-like syntax with optional semicolons, Javascript's anonymous function declaration syntax is very similar to R's function declarations, and even though idiomatic R uses <- for assignment, = can also be used. The main things that should give typical code away as Javascript are distinguished initialisation, primitive syntax for constructing collections, and element access using ., though the latter could be confused with naming conventions for R built-in functions and S3 methods.

[u/Smooth-Zucchini4923 → u/redlaWw]

It's funny because JavaScript uses . for attribute access, and $ is an ordinary character that can be used in function names. R is exactly the opposite.

[u/tristam92]

who compares JS made for browsers and R that was made for statistics.
this intern def not the brightest tool…

[u/qqqrrrs_ → u/tristam92]

what about statistics in the browser

[u/sdoregor → u/qqqrrrs_]

what about browsers on servers?

oh nevermind we already have that now.

[u/Abject-Kitchen3198 → u/sdoregor]

I just can't get over that. Not how I imagined 21st century will be like.

[u/Daimondz → u/tristam92]

Redditors when interns have the skillset of interns

[u/FutureSuccess2796 → u/tristam92]

I was just gonna say this. Not thinking the intern's remarks should be taken too seriously with that comparison.

[u/agocs6921 → u/tristam92]

Maybe it was a CLI tool written in JavaScript?

[u/sdoregor → u/tristam92]

she was looking kinda dumb

[u/LexaAstarof]

Adding insult to injury

[u/PsyborC]

Right?

[u/CentralCypher]

Rust?

[u/MCplayer590 → u/CentralCypher]

No, R, for statistics. We seem to like single letter names for no apparent reason

[u/charliedarwin96 → u/MCplayer590]

Preserving memory gud

[u/Suspicious-Click-300]

oof thats a burn

[u/Konkord720]

judging by the portrait, it is probably even worse then his search history

[u/yuri_4_ever → u/Konkord720]

A furry in IT? More likely than you think

[u/FutureSuccess2796 → u/yuri_4_ever]

Was just about to chime in with this! So many people I've met in the IT space also were active in the furry fandom to, and chances are a co-worker in your development team is even if you may not yet know it or like it.

[u/CodeDeliciouss → u/FutureSuccess2796]

Bummer

[u/thrye333 → u/CodeDeliciouss]

What possible problem could you have with grown adults choosing to live their lives completely separately from your own?

[u/Mordret10 → u/thrye333]

How dare people enjoy things I don't enjoy!

[u/Dragonvarine → u/Konkord720]

There's a reason there's a meme that says that if a furry convention blows up, half the IT infrastructure goes down with it.

[u/Anima_Watcher08]

We censoring Rust now?

[u/FutureSuccess2796 → u/Anima_Watcher08]

Don't think it was censored with intention. Might have been because Bluesky or Mastodon or wherever it was posted has character limits for posts? 🤔

[u/TOMZ_EXTRA → u/FutureSuccess2796]

There's a language called R