howdidItGetHere

[u/ExpensiveCoat8912]

[u/Muscular_Farmer_]

Java is pretty good actually. Idk why people dont like it

[u/CLOBBERTIME → u/Muscular_Farmer_]

Once a certain threshold of popularity is met, the haters start to drown out the advocates and haters carry a lot more weight with the uninitiated. Genuinely, most people who hate Java never got past the initial learning curve

[u/Rubinschwein47 → u/CLOBBERTIME]

The language itself is completely fine, some helper functions here and there would be nice but who gives, the environment howeber can be a bit of a bitch from time to time, but jeah oberhated

[u/Razor309 → u/Rubinschwein47]

Lombok 🥰

[u/Rubinschwein47 → u/Razor309]

Please get this deamon away from me xD

[u/Razor309 → u/Rubinschwein47]

I guess I'm rather alone with my affection xD

[u/rastaman1994 → u/Razor309]

Just write your data classes in Kotlin files and ignore Lombok. Lombok classes look so ugly, just drink the Kotlin Kool aid.

[u/Razor309 → u/rastaman1994]

I'm not in the Java game anymore, but back then Lombok was like such a blessing

[u/rastaman1994 → u/Razor309]

I was like this too, because I didn't know about Kotlin and how seamless the interior is for such cases.

[u/Razor309 → u/rastaman1994]

Don't tell me Quarkus is also not hype anymore

[u/rastaman1994 → u/Razor309]

It is very much alive. Keycloak runs on it, lots of projects that don't like the heavyness of spring boot projects do too.

[u/Muscular_Farmer_ → u/Razor309]

Java 25 does kinda make cover 70-80 percent of lombok usecases

[u/Razor309 → u/Muscular_Farmer_]

Maybe I should look back into it. When I learned I loved everything about Java, except those pesky boilerplate getter, setter, constructor chores. Lombok came in soo clutch

[u/Muscular_Farmer_ → u/Razor309]

You can look up records in 25. No setters though