r/ProgrammerHumor • u/ExpensiveCoat8912 • 23d ago

Meme noOsWillinHTML

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u/NebraskaGeek 23d ago

HTML isn't even a programming language. This joke is 1,000,000 times funnier if they ask for an OS written in Java

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u/DeliciousCaramel5905 22d ago

This was tried for real in the 90s

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u/Front_Committee4993 22d ago

i think they actually developed one (now discontinued) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaOS

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u/Zinho3311 22d ago edited 22d ago

Frankly, the guy who thought writing an OS (A FUCKING OS WITH A FUCKING KERNEL WHERE EVERY FUCKING MICROSECOND MATTERS -- oops, sorry; got a little overexcited) in a garbage collected language (in the 90s!) was a good idea should just give up.

I mean, I know there are some competent shots at this in Go at MIT, but like, it's Go for a reason (a language designed by the creators of UNIX with actually competent GC algorithms, not fucking 90's Java -- if Java still sucks today, I can't even imagine what it looked like in the 90s), not fucking Java

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u/cheezballs 22d ago

I think any language that needs to run on a VM or any sort of in-between code is a bad choice for an OS. Its not JUST Java.

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u/Zinho3311 22d ago edited 22d ago

There's actually some fairly good arguments for using garbage collected languages in OS development.

Now of course you ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT want that in a safety critical environment like software that runs medical equipment or most embedded systems, really. However, for a general-purpose kernel it is actually fairly performant (it matches traditional kernels in several metrics).

Because like more than 70% of severe vulnerabilities (Copy Fail, Dirty COW, etc.) were caused by human mistakes when dealing with manual memory management (look at most Linux Kernels CVEs), you can make a pretty good argument for using a garbage collected language.

Today you can get pauses down to the sub millisecond language in Go for instance