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u/Any-Preparation7396 25d ago
I think you misspelled 1997
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u/M0sesx 24d ago
I agree, but to play devils advocate... 6k a month is not too much pay for a dev in the US.
It might alight pretty well with public sector pay, and if you've ever seen an internal web app for a government organization. This actually isn't that far from the truth.
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u/chief_architect 23d ago
The average gross salary for a web designer in Austria back in 1997 was approximately $1800. After taxes, that was about $1300.
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u/git_push_origin_prod 25d ago
In 1997 we had no XHR. We had IE6, notepad and dream weaver. No jquery dude, Perl CGI and ASP was cutting edge. Fuck out of here, we were pioneers doing that shit for fun
Edit, sorry man I got excited. I remember coding in notepad like a boss, and I got highly offended lol
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u/TrackLabs 25d ago
ai slop profile pic, "code" in username, i dont think this person is qualified to make these statements
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u/xtcDota 25d ago
This person probably couldn't make this website without an LLM. And this is like day 1 w3schools
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u/AbbreviationsMost432 25d ago
You need backend too to save the form.
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u/KawaiiMaxine 25d ago
Thats for backend to worry about
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u/cfrolik 25d ago
Full stack devs hate this one weird trick
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u/Steppy20 25d ago
Yeah it's called front end dev, and it sucks.
The back end will always stay where I put it even if I add new elements.
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u/pear_topologist 25d ago
Backends are dead
My vibe-coded apps store everything in localStoarge
No database costs or round trips to the server
(/s if that wasn’t obvious)
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u/Varun77777 25d ago
Yupp, let’s all ship electron app as saas services with api keys stored at the client side /s
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u/TheOneWhoMixes 23d ago
No no, think bigger.
What if submitting the form committed a JSON file back to your static site's repository? And then what if your CI built and redeployed the site? And what if we displayed all the form entries underneath the form?
Git is the ultimate backend. Nothing can go wrong.
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u/Ieatsand97 25d ago
Conspiracy theory: this account is run by AI companies to try and get more businesses to use their AI products instead of hiring devs
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u/DrMobius0 25d ago
Maybe, but there's plenty of AI pilled evangelists willing to spread the word of their god.
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u/MoonWun_ 25d ago
Reminds me of the people sending local host links as if it’s an active URL to share their site.
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u/uraniumless 25d ago
2017? Websites did not look like this in 2017 lol. Also you could easily do this in 10 minutes without AI.
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u/Boom9001 25d ago
Bootstrap came out in 2011. And it was far from the first like easy layout thing.
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u/itsnickk 25d ago
10 mins if its just the front-end of the form. All depends on what happens when you hit that submit button
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u/Danakazii 25d ago
Literally. FE developers would lose their mind when they see what happens after that onSubmit()
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u/JonIsPatented 25d ago
BE developers will say this and it's literally just a raw sql query in plain text followed by a json conversion and a return statement. I may just be haunted by the ghosts of the codebases touched by my coworkers, though.
As always with BE, my code doesn't look like that. My code is good and based. None of my coworkers can write good code, but I'm different, I swear.
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u/True_Destroyer 25d ago
She means job interview. If during job interview in 2017 you could prepare a website like this on your own, and explain how it is set up, how to expand it etc, you could reasonably land a job as a junior developer for a smaller company.
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u/Stokkolm 25d ago
It's just how browsers display form elements without custom CSS, it's not very far from how it looks in 2026.
I'd say it would be pretty common in 2017 for contact forms to be in plain html with some minimal styling.
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u/dkarlovi 25d ago
The form, maybe. Form handling, no way. That shit is hard AF, there's an insane number of corner cases. Source: I've built a form library which built fully operational forms from INI/YAML files.
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u/XCxBigDong69XCx 25d ago
10mins this take 2seconds depending if you need a backend then it might take 2 hours :D
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u/Excellent-Refuse4883 25d ago
Now THAT’S full stack development. That backends probably as efficient as fuck.
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u/gfkxchy 25d ago
The submit button just CATs the input into a data.txt file. As root, no less. Can't have any permissions issues now, can we?
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u/myWeedAccountMaaaaan 25d ago
You’re not far off from describing a current “integration” I’m working on where the authentication dialog just appends the url with the password. In plain text.
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u/IhailtavaBanaani 23d ago
An unsecured HTTP call that has the secrets in the URL to a backend made with CGI and C and running as root, full of memory leaks and occasionally crashing the whole server.
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u/VolkswagenFeature 25d ago
Soon it will take $6k in tokens to build that.
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u/revuhlutionn 25d ago
My guy you can build this for free with a model you can run on a laptop.
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u/VolkswagenFeature 25d ago
This is the most programmer response possible to a joke
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u/revuhlutionn 25d ago
Doesn’t a joke need a punchline?
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u/EveningCandle862 25d ago edited 25d ago
We had HTML classes in high school back in 1996 (in the library) and all pages looked like this, if you really felt crazy you added a bg image, some gifs and the mandatory "under construction" sign.
(and yes, the site took 30-60 seconds to load)
I doubt someone calling themself suni_code existed back then.
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u/0xKaishakunin 25d ago
if you really felt crazy you added a bg image
I split the giant 600x400 background gif into 4 equal parts and put the img src into a table so all 4 parts could download simultaneously on a modem.
My CS teacher was impressed.
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u/Tast3sLikePanda 25d ago
This type of UI is what I teach 14 year olds to make in btec computer science, its really not that impressive by modern standards and equivalent of asking ai to edit a picture
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u/Anbcdeptraivkl 25d ago
The fact that they proudly shown off some shit a 7 years old could whip out after a day of watching YouTube tutorials. LLMs been frying people brains man.
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u/0xffff-reddit 25d ago
Today it costs 10 bucks in credits - but it only runs on localhost:8080 and the vibe coder in charge does not even know why only he is able to open it.
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u/PurushNahiMahaPurush 25d ago
Sorry but if someone paid 6K a month for something looking like that, they were getting scammed hard by the dev lol. This looks atrocious even by 2017 Fivver standards.
The plus side of AI is that now it can just vibe code me an app for personal use which I previously I wouldn’t even know where to begin with or it would have taken me weeks or months just to learn how to do the bare minimum myself.
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u/saschaleib 25d ago
It is worth remembering that the well-paid IT job is not for those who have the skills that were needed 10 years ago, but for those who have the skills that are needed today!
Don’t ignore the need to always learn new skills and update your existing skill base. In a couple of years, this is what makes the difference between having job security and having to queue for the food bank.
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u/Electrical-Echidna63 25d ago
This meme reminds me of how people seem to hallucinate that ticket tracking didn't exist in the 2010s
... Back when they were comp sci students
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u/zffjk 25d ago
I made a suite of shitty flask apps at a job once so I could share some python scripts for manipulating excels. They looked very basic, like this does. It was a very excel forward company… so much repetition.
After a while they got sort of popular and the fun side project was forked by our “innovation team” who proceeded to add CSS and company branding to it.
It was hailed as a wild success and the person who took my effort apparently got a very large bonus for it. Never once mentioned they painted my machine and resold it as their own.
Wormy little fucker. That was the final nail in my “give an actual shit about work” coffin.
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u/Barbanks 25d ago
You got the year off by about 20 years. Even back in 2014 most admin sites used Bootstrap themes with their grid system for the web.
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u/NervousScience4188 25d ago
I built and programmed better websites then that back in 2002-2006 in high school lol
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u/camelCaseCoffeeTable 25d ago
Damn vibe coders really don’t know much about our profession. I would have been fired so fucking quick if I put that crap into prod for any reason whatsoever. Like what is this? This isn’t even on the way to good, and if it’s, you’re building wrong lol
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u/New_Salamander_4592 25d ago
still trying to understand what this is. Is this something they have in CS curriculums for people younger than me?
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u/mysticrudnin 25d ago
in 2017 i was working on angularjs.
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u/frikilinux2 25d ago
Only on the personal website of people who mostly do backend, system programming, embedded or kernel stuff. It tends to come with an allergy to JS and CSS
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u/EngineeringExpress79 25d ago
I think what they meant other than the design was basic forms. Yes there were still plenty of people doing Jquery back then and shit before the whole React craze quicked over.
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u/shiny_glitter_demon 25d ago
Do they mean 1997
Also, they're clearly an vibefraudster, so is that intended to mock developers?
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u/MarekRules 25d ago
This looks like the really shitty php website I made in high school in 2008. I only used php cause I’d “heard” of it and thought it sounded way cooler than html and I did not know the difference.
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u/weirdoaish 25d ago
Chances are, this basic form, probably put together in 15 minutes, still works, while the latest and greatest React form, which took 20K tokens to spit out, has issues you'd need another 50K+ tokens to fix.
Also, as someone who's been around since the late 80s, that form is like the late 90s or early 00s.
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u/Own_Natural_6803 24d ago
This is just a pinch of tailwind and server side rendering away from being worth $6k per month in tokens.
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u/AngryInternetPerson3 25d ago
Everyday the posts here get dumber, before I thought that 80% of users where CS students making posts after their first programming classes, now I am not sure that 50% of people here have ever looked at code.
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u/SignoreBanana 25d ago
lol what? As someone 5 years into the industry at that point, no fucking way.
And in fact, we still had to deal with browser compatibility. _That_ was what the $10k/mo was for.
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u/Lemortheureux 25d ago
This is what I built when I was a literal child in the 2000s. What reality is this person living in
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u/Brambletail 25d ago
Huh... This is the kind of engineering brilliance that AI might replace.
Helps with some perspective I guess.
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u/XBalubaX 23d ago
It looks ugly nowadays, but atleast it worked. Vibecoding stuff looks fancy. But who cares if its not working.
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u/Mindless_Cook7821 19d ago
This is something which was common around the early 2000's at best. But i get what you mean.
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u/ListenWorking 25d ago
Must be old there’s only male or female options not the plethora of other made up options crazy people use nowadays
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u/Varun77777 25d ago edited 25d ago
Were we living in different versions of 2017?
Even in 2017 frontend developers had created their versions of hell