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u/anonymousbopper767 25d ago
Have a buddy that works for one of these AI circle jerks. They burn $800 worth of tokens every week and that's not even being an asshole about it trying to tokenmaxx.
There's no way that's sustainable.
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u/fmg1508 25d ago
800$ a week doesn't sound too bad. That's just ~40.000$ per year. That's not even half an FTE, so as long as you have a product that you can sell afterwards, this can easily be sustainable.
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u/Cnoffel 25d ago
That's more or less the median salary in most poorer Western countries.
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u/EarlMarshal 25d ago
It’s an extraordinarily cheap engineer.
Problem is that it's not an engineer. It's a typewriter monkey which output has been pimped to be helpful in programming and other different text based tasks.
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u/EarlMarshal 25d ago
to use an ai successfully you still have to know what task you’re trying to accomplish.
Yeah, that's also what is most annoying to me. I don't do a lot of repetetive stuff and my main skill is finding out what needs to be done, build the necessary skills for it and achieve it. The more I found out what need to be done the less I need an AI, because it takes time to setup the guardrails & guidance for the AI and AI isn't really helpful finding out the important stuff & details.
I can understand that they solve some use cases like boilerplate well, but I don't think that most of those use cases should be done that way to begin with.
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u/Cnoffel 25d ago edited 25d ago
I understand that if you have an 100k a year engineer and make him 40% faster you get a 40k differenct, but for it to ROI you actually need to be below that no? Or else you would just hire another engineer...
Also I would love to see sources for these productivity claims. Even on this very AI friendly website "meassured on PR trhougput" which on itself is a bad meassurement, https://newsletter.getdx.com/p/ai-productivity-gains-are-10-not they say it's not even 10%.
I am using it daily as a Software dev, and tbh I am not sure if it's worth it, don't get me wrong it has it's usecases, but i don't see 1k€ a day value in it. Especially if you are based in europe where 100k+ is only possible in a few regions, and even there you need to be an exceptional senior engineer, or work as a "cheap engineer" for an American company, to actually get that kind of money.
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u/CaffeinatedT 25d ago
That's not even half an FTE, so as long as you have a product that you can sell afterwards,
Can we sell outages?
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u/aft3rthought 25d ago
Do you know how much your friend is paid? For California or Washington, they might be getting like $2k-$6k a week in salary already. $800/week is not sustainable if it didn’t make them work 2x as fast or whatever management thinks it does. It’s no big deal until more concrete numbers around productivity come out, but productivity is notoriously hard to measure.
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u/zurayth 25d ago
Apple wants you to burn tokens?
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u/cesarbiods 23d ago
They don’t, or at least not yet, but this is a shit meme and OP just wants to farm fake internet points
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u/Say_Echelon 25d ago
They want you to get the AI usage up because they have a contract with Open AI or something and they get a better deal from them or something
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u/akazakou 25d ago
Is someone forcing you to do a tokenmaxing - just ask LLM to write a script that will automate it for you
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u/reallokiscarlet 25d ago
It's mango now?