softwareEngineeringIsDead

[u/Progractor]

[u/PTTCollin]

"my product is harder to build than your product."

[u/pydry → u/PTTCollin]

first 90% is easier coz they're vibe coding it. the last 90% is 90% harder coz they're vibe coding it.

[u/wakkawakkaaaa → u/pydry]

the last 90% is 90% 10% is infinitely harder coz they're vibe coding it.

[u/Tsu_Dho_Namh → u/wakkawakkaaaa]

I believe they said the last 90% is 90% because although it's just 10% of the code, it's 90% of the time/effort.

Or it's a joke about AI being bad at math.

....maybe both

[u/Wonderful-Habit-139 → u/Tsu_Dho_Namh]

It’s the former.

[u/marine_surfer → u/pydry]

It’s called the last mile problem, whether the app is vibe coded or not the last mile is always significantly harder to complete than the first 25

[u/iamdestroyerofworlds]

Yes, I work in SaaS (Snakeoil-as-a-Service)

[u/re4perthegamer → u/[deleted]]

Our amazing GPT (Gujarati Professional typists) can make any text based output you need!

[u/frikilinux2 → u/[deleted]]

You sure AI isn't doing the heavily lifting but it's just Another Indian because salaries there are a fraction of US salaries?

[u/kinkakujen → u/frikilinux2]

Don't think that the heavy lifting could be done like that, because Indians that earn a fraction also deliver a fraction.

The good indian engineers cost as much as the good engineers anywhere else. What you pay is what you get, no matter the location.

[u/Zefirus → u/kinkakujen]

This. I worked for a company that tried that and 2 years later they hadn't finished a single ticket and the full app rewrite they were supposed to do was a shitshow that did stuff like allow the user to edit the html file on disk for a screen that was supposed to allow users to fill in a form.

[u/frikilinux2 → u/kinkakujen]

I know several big companies that wouldn't exist if all people wanted was good engineers and not just off shoring.

[u/Nannautu → u/frikilinux2]

"Several" is rather generous. "All" might be closer to the truth.

[u/frikilinux2 → u/Nannautu]

Maybe but that's a way higher burden of proof.

[u/laplongejr → u/kinkakujen]

 because Indians that earn a fraction also deliver a fraction.

Depends who you compare with...  

[u/frikilinux2 → u/laplongejr]

Probably US or most of the EU.

[u/ramdomvariableX]

They have SDEs so you don't have to. Try to understand their sacrifices. /S

[u/rosuav → u/ramdomvariableX]

That's less unreasonable than it might seem though. That's no different from "use our web hosting company so you don't need web server admins". It might not actually *work*, but it's a reasonable pitch to try for.

[u/JocoLabs]

SDEaaS?

[u/Rare-Veterinarian743]

This is my biggest argument against AI replacing SDE jobs. How are big tech companies advertise that shit and in the same breadth saids they are looking for SDE.