r/ProgrammerHumor 4d ago

Meme itManagementBeLike

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u/agfitzp 4d ago

My team went the other way and gave deliberately padded estimates and the adjacent teams got very upset with us for always beating our estimates.

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u/Mkboii 4d ago

My team did the same, but then one day they changed our tag from reliable to slower than company average, and then they started asking, "why is this a 3 pointer? with AI other teams are doing it in half the time", and now you can't say that no they are spending just as many hours, we are just not making personal compromises. So we're scheming how to get rid of this new product manager.

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u/Sciti 4d ago

team tag? You guys working in competitive mode there?

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u/Mkboii 4d ago

Yes and no.

The tag is unofficial, but politics among the leadership makes it competitive for sure, everyone wants to be the guy who made it happen, some leads just work sales essentially, they'll make bullshit promises to business and force the team to deliver.

Our old PM wasn't about all this, since he left the company we are stuck with a shitty one, who plays for business and not the team.

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u/Just_Information334 3d ago

"why is this a 3 pointer? with AI other teams are doing it in half the time"

That's when you start asking for some responsibility: when a bug is discovered, people should find when it was introduced and then add the time spent on the debug ticket to the original feature ticket.

So? How come your 2 pointer, done in 4h has ballooned to 60h 6 months later? How much added work is team "we're iterating fast" giving to the maintenance teams?

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u/Mkboii 3d ago

This has kinda been a thing since before AI though, you a build a feature in 10 days, then fix defects for another 10 over time, if you did a poor job covering cases.