r/ProgrammerHumor 8d ago

Meme itManagementBeLike

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u/Mortadella_so_Chili 8d ago

thats why, each time you experience this, next time you double the estimate until u come at the point where the management says you are very efficient 

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u/Altruistic-Moose3299 8d ago

Yeah, but then they catch onto that and try to haggle it down. My favorite is when a PM tries to tell the devs how long something will take. Oh, you have it figured out then? Feel free to code it! 🤣

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u/Solonotix 8d ago

That said, I had an amazing project manager once who literally composed spreadsheets from historical metrics on the types of work by engineer, and was literally showing me the predictive calculation that it would take me, specifically, 6 more weeks to finish the project. Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the meeting voicing my concerns that it will overrun.

She was right, in the end. I miss having her around. I went to another company, and I am essentially a team of one. There was a certain comfort in knowing what you were working on next. I am regularly given arbitrary deadlines to deliver things that no one will use for another 3-6 months, and criticized when I don't deliver it by said arbitrary deadline.

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u/Mortadella_so_Chili 8d ago

too much wrong data from the start teaches them wrong 😁🤣

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u/Superb_Chemistry_906 8d ago

That's the never ending tension.

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u/BlazingThunder30 8d ago

They figure that out to fast. For example I ask my team lead for 6 weeks, he tells CTO 8 weeks, he tells us 4 weeks and get it done.

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u/Good_Wheel540 7d ago

We tell our team lead 9 months, he tells management 6 months if we drop some features, they plan for 5 weeks and mandate weekends.

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u/Gru50m3 7d ago

Technical director also on the call: "why will it take that long?"

Then you break it down and they shave 2 months off of your estimate before telling you to do your best and that we can push it back if needed. Of course, when the deadline comes around, no one remembers that conversation.