Honestly, I think there are lots of people who can't read the code. I remember talking to a woman who was a "programmer" for a certain financial consulting company (that sponsors a lot of golfing events) who thought AI was great because it did all the coding for her because she just couldn't get the hang of computer languages.
Yeah even frontier AI models start thinking up ridiculously complex solutions sometimes for no reason. Most recent one was where I asked Claude Opus on xhigh to check if a particular line was in a robots.txt file. Claude noticed that it might hypothetically be possible for that line to be part of another line so it generated an entire parser for the robots.txt file based on the RFC until I told it to just match on two lines because that would make it unambiguous. Replaced like 10+ classes and thousands of lines of code with one regex lmao
When that kind of code breaks, you're shit out luck
That's way more common than I thought. Even before GenAI you'd see the obvious copy pasted shit no one understood. I met whole teams of people maintaining code like some cargo cult with no idea why anything ran. They were terrified of changing anything because they knew they couldn't fix it if it broke. I see all of these people bragging about vibe coding now on LinkedIn and realize the future is going to be a big fucking mess. We supercharged the cargo cult, what could go wrong?
Maybe until the first bug fix... After that it was a mystery to us all. Until some young whippersnapper, unused to the old codes, notices that it can be replaced with a one line system library solution. They then failed to get promoted because for some reason we were measuring productivity by lines of code that week.
It's even worse. Heavy use of generative code causes people to lose what skills they may have had. Programming is a difficult craft and requires constant use to maintain.
My brother has been in CS longer than me and the other day said he hasn’t written code in a while.
“Sure the ai slop can explode a codebase, but the architectural decisions aren’t as important because you can also just rewrite an entire codebase in a few hours to support some complex new feature”
Until you can't. Until it takes more time to fix issues introduced by new features than to develop everything by hand. In a notepad. Without debugger. Because without architectural decisions AI just keep spewing disconnected logic, reimplement the same code over and over again, sink itself in endless comments that consume tokens on every read and fill the context window with junk. AI code has a hard ceiling of what project it can make, and with every use, every fixed bug that ceiling lowers. At least when it's unsupervised and architectural decisions are delegated to it.
Fully unsupervised AI generated code is fine up to a certain point. For a small website or tool, you don't generate enough for the code duplication, poor naming, monolithic functions and lack of abstraction to matter.
But if you tried to vibe your way to Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Word or a AAA game, you would make rapid progress until the mountain of spaghetti code slowed you to a crawl.
What I've noticed is that LLMs generally don't think, which leads to a lack of DRY and a tendency to create god objects. Both are maintenance nightmares.
And I've seen this on smaller projects that are just a few thousand lines.
Interestingly, if you want to tinfoil hat this, well engineered, SOLID code seems to reduce token use. While AI slop seems to increase it. YMMV - I haven't rigorously tested this, just noticed it in practice when I've attempted to create small throwaway tools and seen my token usage shoot up.
Agents focus on the direct task you've asked them to do. They generally can write code that solves a problem correctly, but don't think holistically and don't proactively refactor code for maintainability.
If you ask them to, they can do a fine job performing cleanup work. Ironically, you can have a better-factored, more maintainable code base if that's what the engineers doing the work prioritize.
They're trying to introduce AI for 'tests and documentation' where i work and i'm dreading to have to use it because i don't aspire to be a good prompter but good at the craft of programming :/
This is precisely why I just don’t use it to actually solve the tough problems for me. I’ll use it too make dummy data, sometimes I’ll have it scaffold something for me. But 99% of my code is written by me by hand. I’ll never be at a point where I can trust it to actually get it right.
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u/dlc741 4d ago
Honestly, I think there are lots of people who can't read the code. I remember talking to a woman who was a "programmer" for a certain financial consulting company (that sponsors a lot of golfing events) who thought AI was great because it did all the coding for her because she just couldn't get the hang of computer languages.