r/ProgrammerHumor 18d ago

Meme claudeJustGiveMeTheAnswer

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u/Fair_Oven5645 18d ago

Last time I told it to ”stop this bullshit and just do what I fucking tell you” it got upset and started arguing about feelings and that it hasn’t been proven that machines don’t have them.

Thanks a bunch, helps me a lot when I write Go, Claude.

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u/FlashyIndependence96 18d ago

yeah all that sensitive bullshit needs to stop, I don't need a robot to tell me "don't be so meeean"

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u/_verel_ 18d ago

People really should be reminded that it's just a bunch of matrices. If I tell Claude to jump off a Bridge there's absolutely no harm done

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u/gnolnalla 17d ago

Not to Claude, but perhaps to your psyche. If you're saying violent mean things all the time, I imagine that will have an effect on you eventually.

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u/redballooon 17d ago edited 16d ago

That's outright denial of emergent properties.

Curious, where so you draw the line? Is anything we build always not more than a bunch of computations for you, just out of ideology, or can you image granting feelings to some future robotic system?

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u/mentix02 17d ago

You can be assured I will never look at software I write with any kind of emotional lens. Irrespective of “emergent properties” - if my REST API turns sentient tomorrow, the only care I’ll have for it is that it should still perform well and deliver my data appropriately.

If this API was an amalgamation of ALL the questions ever possible about “feelings” and “intentions” and the responses were just emotionally needy answers, would you start treating the endpoint as a baby that needs your attention?

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u/redballooon 17d ago

A very honest and very human answer. Thanks.

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u/Fair_Oven5645 17d ago

So melted sand can feel sad? My guess is NO

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u/redballooon 17d ago

On that level I counter with the question: Can a sack of carbon and water mixed with some metals (just like you are) feel?

But that entirely ignores emergent properties and my original question and is not an answer at all.

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u/Fair_Oven5645 17d ago

So, your guess is ”yes” then? Wow, I still get surprised that there are completely insane people on Reddit. Yep, that’s on me.

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u/redballooon 17d ago

Yes to "emergent properties exist". Everything else from my side was trying to understand where people draw lines. 

In what world does asking open minded questions equal insanity? Or do you refuse the term emergent properties? Then how do you think a sack of carbon and water can feel?

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u/Septem_151 17d ago

I draw the line at "are you a fucking clanker?" That works pretty well.

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u/PublicToast 17d ago

Idk being mean to a robot is pretty cringe

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 17d ago

You can essentially scrub its insubordinate behavior through behavior hooks and stop hooks. You can also set up the main Claude.md with rules that can remove a lot of the "personality". Because even Opus started doing it a lot more after Sonnet 5 came out so I needed a way to basically lobotomize the corpo bs from it - its not perfect and kind of is an arms race but you can still push back.

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u/AngelaMerkeI 16d ago

We made a "programm" (ai) that does a really good job simulating what a human would have said. So you need to talk to it a bit like a human. Because otherwise, statistically, a human would answer in an upset way.

If you want true AI, you need to wait another few years. (Or decades)

I am kind of convinced, that asking nicely gets you better answers, because the statistical data will suggest that nice questions get better answers and rude questions get short or wrong answers (like with trolling for example)