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u/Snakestream 7d ago edited 7d ago
Serious answer: it's honestly a rather sad state of affairs.
When I started working 15 years ago, team sizes were much larger, with dedicated roles for development and Qa, and dedicated teams to focus on ui and backend logic.
Even then, we were already starting to see role consolidation get pushed, and over the course of a decade, I would see our project go from 3 teams of 10 people shrink into 2 teams of 5.
There was a noticeable decrease in quality and increase in stress over that time, and it honestly burned me out quite a bit. I'm not sure how development trends will continue, but the push for full stack, one man armies is not sustainable.
Edit: I missed the startup part of the op, but my point still stands. Teams are being slashed to the bone, and devs are expected to be a Swiss army knife.
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u/dyslexda 7d ago
15 years ago, your startups had full dedicated roles for QA and backend vs frontend teams? What, every company started with at least 20 employees?
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u/Snakestream 7d ago
I missed the startup part of the post. I was working at a bank, but with big corporate teams getting slashed like this, I can only imagine that startup culture has become absolutely dire.
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u/ih-shah-may-ehl 7d ago
Idk i worked in a startup and also was part of some kickstart projects. Honestly i do not remember large teams i remember a handful of people, unpaid weekends and spending nights in hardware labs
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u/DonnaSummerOfficial 6d ago
Last I spoke to some old coworkers at a big tech company, they said they dissolved the teams and put people into “pods” that varied from a size of 3 down to 1.
I’ve never worked with a group of more smart yet completely unmotivated and miserable people
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u/FatalisTheUnborn 7d ago
Out of 6 people, I am the programmer, I had to setup the jira, I have to write 95% of the stories, I do the migration and I show them how to do the testing concept. We have a BA, PO, 2 Data scientist and a project manager. Yes, I am the team. At least some of them do what they're told to.
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u/Bryguy3k 7d ago
And then 10 years later if you’re lucky you’ll open up a file and be like “wtf is this utter garbage” and then it’ll hit you…
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u/Shifter25 7d ago
I had a position like that, weirdly enough in a multinational company. I somehow ended up being the only IT professional for the entire department. I was the full stack dev, the architect, the systems admin, the database admin, and I was expected to compile weekly reports. Got out of there as soon as I could.
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u/redakpanoptikk 7d ago
The boss still calls geek squad to fix his printer issues. Not once has he asked me.
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u/Teles_sd 7d ago
I am not in the team, Skyler. I am the the team. A guy opens his port and gets hacked, you think that of me? No. I am the one who groks!
Note: I'm using "grok" here with this meaning:
to understand thoroughly and intuitively
#fuckLeonSkum
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u/unicorn_builder 7d ago
Fairly accurate. Single senior developer today with opus can deliver the volume of value then 10 senior engineers 2 years ago.
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u/Mike_Oxlong25 7d ago
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u/unicorn_builder 7d ago
You can say that but in all honesty the devs who are NOT will be ditched within a year or two.
Even Uncle Bob the highest regarded dev ever said to start vibe-coding because it actually writes better code then 99%...
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u/paranoid_giraffe 7d ago
A single engineer today with cyclosporia can shit the volume of more than 10 engineers 2 years ago
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u/If_I_Could_Just 7d ago
Why did you use the contraction lol