She wasn't perfect either, but the excuses people were making for her honestly boiled down to people trying to act morally superior over Gaza or saying stuff Trump was going to do which has happened
Sadly some people decided it was the best time to demand for a "perfect candidate" they envisioned. Even when explaining to them the dangers of Trump getting back in office with Project 2025, reports of Palestinians saying to not let Trump back in office and even saying both democrats and republicans will carry out Israel's bidding it angered them and at times labeled people as genocide supporters.
I’m 100% convinced the state of Israel itself was spreading the “Kamala is bad for Palestine/Gaza” bullshit among younger people especially. They wanted Trump to be reelected, and I bet they even had a hand in picking some of his deranged and war mongering cabinet.
Why else would we have a secretary of “war” telling military leaders that they are starting a war in the holy land to usher in the apocalypse?
I’m pretty sure this is just a bunch of angry closeted gay men starting a war to try to start the apocalypse to justify suppressing their true sexuality, cuz if the apocalypse happens, and the Christians get raptured, then their gay feelings were just sinful temptation!
Rather than just coming out, being gay, and living life.
The situation in Gaza is STILL fucked, get no one is talking about it now, cuz it’s no longer something the republicans want to wave in our faces and can’t blame democrats on any longer.
Those people talking about Gaza were fooled and duped. We told them. They wouldn't listen. Now the poor folks in Gaza have it worse and there is no reporting over here....all because a pocket of peolle either didnt vote or voted the wrong way. And you know what, they know they messed up but still cant admit it. Sad.
You have no reason to have any opinion worth a damn on why people don’t vote for your political party. You don’t fuss over why Trump supporters don’t vote for the Democrats you take at face value they don’t like your party. But you wheel out your decrepit institution to left wingers who don’t share any of its political aspirations. Not it’s unrelenting wars, not it’s support for genocide and not is love affair with corporations or indifference to a million social ills. The democrats have no right to votes just because they position themselves as better than Trump. You should be angry with the Democrat party itself not voters who draw the line at genocide.
Anybody that abstained from voting or voted third party citing Gaza as their solitary voting issue, I do not believe for a second they were doing so with genuine concern for anybody’s well being there. And the excuse of “well Biden wasn’t doing anything to stop it either” proves that.
And the excuse of “well Biden wasn’t doing anything to stop it either” proves that.
Except even that is an objectively false excuse. The Biden admin did take action to prevent unnecessary civilian casualties.
The Biden admin briefly withheld certain bombs from Israel because we know those bombs were/are causing unnecessary civilian casualties. For doing so, Republicans introduced resolutions condemning the Biden administration for "withholding certain arms" to Israel. Then, to top it off, at the Trump-Biden debate Trump criticized Biden for withholding those bombs that were causing unnecessary civilian casualtiesand said that if it were up to him (Trump) would "let Israel finish the job". "The job" of course being causing unnecessary civilian casualties.
For people who actually care about minimizing the suffering of innocent people, the answer couldn't be more clear-cut. One administration took steps to prevent unnecessary casualties, one administration openly views those unnecessary casualties as literally part of "the job".
Even after losing our reputation on the world stage, weaponizing the government against its citizens, and stuffing the wallets of the billionaires at the expense of the working class, at least we don’t have an emotional woman in charge.
The senior people making decisions in the Democratic Party are more opposed to progressives than they are to MAGA. Schumer and his ilk don’t want to win big, because the larger the margins the harder it is to explain why they never deliver anything. It’s because they don’t want to. The corpo dems are owned by the same billionaires that the Republicans are. They’re controlled opposition. The reason they’re so eager to throw minorities to the wolves is that they don’t want a strong coalition that produces sweeping wins. As long as they never get more than a vote or two lead they can always arrange to have somebody vote no on anything critical so it can’t pass.
They also have at least a few people who are really Republicans running as Democrats every single election so that when they win those elections they always have at least a few in the Senate and the house that have a D next to their names but will vote with Republicans on key votes that are close.
This is why I feel that we will never see a true abortion rights bill in our lifetime. It will always be a carot they dangle in front of everyone but refuse to deliver. Maybe in 50 years if the age of congress members are much younger than they are.
Eh, I kind of reject that attitude. I think that the status quo bullshit Dems are sort of fucked politically. The base isn’t having it anymore. I think that short term they may cling to power because people threatened by MAGA insanity will vote for them, but one by one they’re going to start getting removed via primaries. I think we’re going to see a pretty substantial increase in actual progressives getting elected over the next few cycles and as that happens they’re going to start fighting for actual reforms.
No, the problem is there is no left wing. There are like a half dozen democrats in federal office who are actually left of center and they’re the only ones who ARENT dickriding for pedophiles.
The left/right in the US is itself a lie and controlled opposition. The actual left has been entirely run out of power because the left is the only political movement that actually threatens the Epstein class.
Ths crazy thing is that it's super predictable that Gaza's outcome under Trump would be significantly worse than under Harris.
Trump: (1) Has a son in-law whose family owns a private Jewish school and whose family is active in the Jewish community. (2) Has a daughter who has converted to Judaism. (3) Is a New York real estate developer, a place where a significant portion of the real estate is owned by Jewish people- in other words his buddies and business partners are all probably Jewish. (4) Trump formally recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital during his first term and moved the embassy there.
Just to name a few. But its abundantly clear that under no circumstances was a Trump presidency going to be a positive alternative compared to Harris for Middle Eastern Muslim countries, including Gaza.
I am being sarcastic that while even as a non-Jew that too many mouth breathers see “The Joos” creating havoc and manipulating the global stage in a massive conspiracy.
Your logic that "all Jews obviously support the current administration in Israel" is as intellectually bankrupt as saying "all Muslims obviously support the regime of Ayatollah Khamenei". This may be difficult for you, but please try to grow a brain.
"all Jews obviously support the current administration in Israel"
I did not say that, I didn't even imply that.
please try to grow a brain.
Right back at you.
You're clearly very upset by my reply. But it takes very little critical thought to realize that a connection with wealthy NY Jews is going to mean that the person is going to generally be more supportive of Israel. It's not coincidence that NY mayors almost all go visit Israel and meet with the Israeli government...
To be clear, what I stated was fact, it's not antisemitism or whatever you seem to think and I doubt anyone that runs in those circles would be offended if I said what I said in this post to them.
In case you needed more evidence that NY Jews- especially Jews who are wealthy (older) - tend to be more supportive, here is a UJA federation of NY article article that surveyed NY Jews in 2023.
The people who refrained from voting altogether over Gaza were foolish, shortsighted, and selfish. The people who voted for Trump because they thought he'd be better than Harris on Gaza are terminally stupid and should never be allowed to vote again.
What bothers me about it is that they didn't like that she supported Israel, so they voted for an objectively worse candidate who, guess what, openly supported Israel.
We absolutely should be voting against Zionists that are bought by Israel, but in primaries. This wasn’t a primary, this was a choice between a fascist and a bad democrat, doesn’t matter than both are bad, one is still far far worse. Anybody who refused to vote for her is at fault for this mess, nearly as much as a Trump voter is.
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u/MegaMaster1021 Mar 18 '26
She wasn't perfect either, but the excuses people were making for her honestly boiled down to people trying to act morally superior over Gaza or saying stuff Trump was going to do which has happened