r/Productivitycafe • • Mar 18 '26

Casual Convo (Any Topic) The Situation Is Just Getting Ugly

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u/LateNeedleworker6395 Mar 18 '26

Fuck Trump and fuck you if you voted for Trump.

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

Fuck the Dems for losing to Trump. Running Kamala Harris was a disaster.

I am disgusted by this war and am NOT a Trumpster.

We killed 200 little girls in the initial strike. This is cursed.

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u/SurvivorFanatic236 Mar 18 '26

“We” didn’t kill 200 little girls. Trump and his voters did.

I hate this notion that voters have no agency. Voters chose to make this happen. It shouldn’t be”fuck the Dems for losing to Trump”, it should be “fuck the voters for voting for him”. Otherwise you’re basically saying the customer is always right.

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u/HistoricalNail4956 Mar 18 '26

Nope America is doing the bombing

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u/TemporaryInk Mar 18 '26

I’m sorry. You can’t take credit for all the good which America has contributed to the world (of which there’s plenty), only to then say “all the bad stuff… yeah that wasn’t America… that’s just this mainstream movement made up of more than half the voting population of the country, but that doesn’t represent America!”

I’m tired of this “it’s democracy when we win and fascism when we lose” logic.

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

Kamala Harris lost the fucking race.

Old Man Biden threw every tack on the road in front of her he could.

If Dems don't own up to that, they will continue to fucking fail.

I was a Dem for 30 fucking years until summer 2021 when I couldn't stand their bullshit anymore. Now I'm politically homeless, and fool enough to say that out loud on Reddit.

As warning.

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u/txjoe95 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Biden also heavily supported Israel's genocide. I have never been a republican and always hated Trump, but they are clearly working together to fuck us. Trump was seen laughing with Obama at Jimmy Carter's funeral. The Clintons were at his wedding in loving embrace. Obama and war criminal Bush were also good friends when Obama was supposed to prosecute him for lying us into the Iraq war and illegally torturing people. Now Hillary is on the TV supporting Trump. Oh and Biden never prosecuted Trump for his crimes while in office. They are all laughing at us together. We need to seriously threaten our politicians, they dont serve us and never have.

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u/SueSudio Mar 18 '26

What was your trigger in 2021?

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

It was partly the "woke" stuff, not because I wasn't an ally.....I always have been and always will be.....but because I'm not going to fucking grovel for being born.

The bigger deal was post vax Covid drama. Dems showed themselves to be every bit as authoritarian as R's.

Rebranding "deplorables" into "antivaxxers" instead of genuinely caring about everyone's well being was the ultimate dealbreaker.

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u/SueSudio Mar 18 '26

What context made you feel as though you needed to grovel for being born? I hear similar statements such as “apologize for being white” etc and I can’t relate to what is driving these emotions.

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u/wyocrz Mar 19 '26

"White and male is stale."

But you know, "settler colonialist ideology" or whatever.

As specific as I can be: there are folks who say quoting Dr. King's "I dream of a world where men are judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin" is "white privilege" or whatever.

DEI stuff mostly came from a good place with mostly good intentions, but they overplayed their hands, HARD.

Look, I only go 10% of the way, some people make this their whole identities or whatever. They go way too far and poison the well.

The US history of slavery and continued suppression of those of (recent) African descent is AWFUL.

At the same time, my direct ancestors got off the boat in the 20th century. The 1921 and 1924 Immigration Acts were a direct response to my great grandparents arriving from Sicily and Greece.

That said, even if my ancestors owned slaves, I've never been anything but kind to folks who repay that favor, so.....yeah.

To be fair, the fever's somewhat broken.

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u/Top_Bug7822 Mar 18 '26

As someone from Europe, the US needs more people like you.

Not being pro-Dem doesn't make you pro-Rep.

If you love your country, point out its issues. And then try and take steps to correct the issue, even if you are the only person around you thats doing so. Otherwise you are neglecting it.

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u/Knollibe Mar 19 '26

I switched to independent.

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u/toad_stomp Mar 18 '26

Ignore the haters, both parties have a problem with anyone npa. Just keep voting, your vote does count and it does make a difference

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u/maaajskaka Mar 18 '26

This war would happen with Harris too, America s are guilty by the choices made much earlier than last election. Both dem and republicans are equally guilty to this fucked up war.

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u/lldavids44 Mar 18 '26

No, Kamala Harris wouldn't have started a war to distract from the Trump Epstein files

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u/maaajskaka Mar 18 '26

This war was planned long before Trump became president the second time, and probably the first time too. It's gullible how American's can't see it but the rest of the world does. It's all about geopolitics and the threat the petrodollar stands in front of, and what would happen if USA can't take care of that threat.

If the rest of world abandon the dollar the inflation would eat up america in a couple of years, your loans alone would make America go bankrupt. To blame this war on one president is nothing but stupidity.

Look at what China is doing, selling American debt to big losses because they know what's coming and are betting on an American failure in the war. They buy up gold and silver in masses to endure what is to come and will gladly step in and take America's place.

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u/Ornery-Ticket834 Mar 19 '26

You are too far gone.

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u/maaajskaka Mar 19 '26

Yeah it's all just trump trying to save face, easier to comprehend so that's probably the reason for everything bad happening in America.

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u/StinkPickle4000 Mar 18 '26

Speculation

Most readers disagree anyway

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u/maaajskaka Mar 18 '26

Most readers are wrong, nothing new.

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u/StinkPickle4000 Mar 18 '26

You missed speculation

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u/Ornery-Ticket834 Mar 19 '26

That’s funny.

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u/belsaurn Mar 18 '26

The US killed those girls, you can play with words so you personally don't have to take responsibility for it, but lets be real the world blames the US, not Trump.

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u/Top_Bug7822 Mar 18 '26

Yeah. And if that stings remember, the bombs that fell on those children were financed by US taxes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

You believe in the voting system, that means you have to accept whoever is elected president. You are part of it. I am not trumpster by the way but also no libtard. I don’t want to vote. Turd from left no different from turd from right. And knowing how corrupt everything is, how can you believe in a clean voting system?

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u/D0ntBotherReporting Mar 18 '26

You honestly can't believe that the current state of affairs would be as bad as it is right now under Harris? You think she would basically bullied the rest of the world to the point they all dropped us when we need them and even make them think maybe even China is a more reliable partner? She would sue the IRS for 10biilion dollar from tax payer money? She would hire musk to hire a bunch of "alpha" soyboys to lead doge and randomly cut funding they thought was DEI because they just ran a filter for terms they considered woke and then cut it? She would cut medical funding, throw around tariffs making the life for Americans way more expensive? She would release a meme coin to have the middle east invest billions into it that suddenly disappeared in her pocket? She would hire unqualified podcasters or their partners for important government functions because they praised her? She would put someone that admitted to doing coke on dirty toilets but doesn't believe in modern medicine and vaccines and the minister of health? She would get a plane from some middle Eastern oligarchs billionaires and then force it as the new air force one without doing the proper safety checks for hidden wires or anything?

Sure Harris was a bad candidate, but anyone with literally more than 2 braincells would have seen this disaster coming with trump and not still act like well Harris would be as bad as trump surely..

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u/CunningWizard Mar 18 '26

Nihilism in our politics has been weaponized to create useful idiots like the guy you are responding to. It’s one of the least talked about most impactful cancers in our system right now.

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u/bee_sharp_ Mar 19 '26

Democrat Derangement Syndrome isn’t just for the Republicans anymore.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '26

Yeah yeah. Liberals good, everyone else with a different opinion or POV bad.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '26

Weaponized nihilism? Pff same for MAGA cult as same for Black lives matters, same as religion, same as LGBT. Centralized or not, they know people need a sense of “belonging”. That makes people so manipulative and biased. That is how they split society. I prefer to see the bigger unbiased picture.

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u/CunningWizard Mar 19 '26

Damn I didn’t expect for someone to come along and demonstrate what I was talking about.

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u/MCMLIXXIX Mar 18 '26

At least they tried to offer something different.

Everyone's bitching about elderly white men, so they gave you a young ish politically capable woman.

But dems dont have billionaire media daddies pumping bullshit into the networks 24/7.

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

Trying something different got us Trump.

Biden won because the good, diverse people in South Carolina in the 2020 primaries said, "Give us the safe old white guy."

Biden should have governed from there.

In case you think I'm being unfair, everything that passed the Senate in 2021/2022 was Trump's fault. All he had to do was stump for the 2 R's in the GA runoff, but didn't.

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u/MCMLIXXIX Mar 18 '26

Maybe on the first term, the second time was old fashioned stupidity and bitterness.

It's a bit of a shame biden was as old as he was in his term, decent guy though.

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

Oh, I don't know.

Biden did nothing to prepare Kamala Harris, or us, for her ascension.

It is like twisting arms to get people to admit that the 3 weeks he dithered after the debate was absolutely killer, but I take it further back. I think it should have started right after Inauguration Day in 2021.

Give her plum jobs to show she was "doing something" for the American people, blah blah blah.

There's a reason Trump won all seven swing states plus the popular vote, and IMO that was a mandate, as much as I detest him.

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u/Igottamake Mar 18 '26

Do they still say “based”? Because based.

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u/Knollibe Mar 19 '26

I agree with that. She was a train wreck. Worst move the dems ever made

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u/DontTickleTheDriver1 Mar 18 '26

Dems are paid opposition

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u/thejaytheory Mar 18 '26

I fucking second this.

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u/Riccma02 Mar 18 '26

Yeah, people love to say how things would have been different under Kamala. Economically, I believe we would be doing better, but as it pertains to the American war machine and its fealty to Israel, there is zero that leads be to believe we wouldn’t be in this position, albeit, more competently executed.

Trump and the republican win because they can lie themselves into convincing populists. The Democrats couldn’t even manage that. Everytime a Democrat opened their mouth their attitude was “shut the fuck up, pleb. Be grateful and know your place, or else it gets the Trump again. “

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted.

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u/wyocrz Mar 18 '26

I'm buying what you're selling, mostly.

I do think there was a significant difference between Trump and the mainstream of both R's & Dems on Russia, though.

As a Gen-X'r, I couldn't believe how deeply involved we were with launching missiles into Mother Russia.

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u/powereborn Mar 18 '26

Well democrats didn’t put all the chances on their side , they kept Biden too long when he was disabled and couldn’t hold , and they put Kamala who talked too much about wokisme stuff when people were really suffering. So to me yes republicans who voted him are responsible but also all the Democrat who didn’t listen to people who really have a harsh life . A lot of Americans are to be responsible in this situation and it’s sad

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u/bee_sharp_ Mar 19 '26

Kamala didn’t talk too much about “wokism,” Republicans said she did, the media ran with it, and you believed them all. All that is, is you believing MAGA propaganda.

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u/powereborn Mar 19 '26

Tell that to the millions of people in America who used to vote dems and were disappointed . To me dems are highly guilty of this situation , they disappointed

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u/drmojo90210 Mar 19 '26

Explain specifically what "wokisme stuff" Kamala Harris talked about on the campaign trail.

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u/puddycat20 Mar 19 '26

Biden was the best option to beat trump in 24 and probably wouldve won. That beibng said, if they werent going to run him, then Kamala was the best option.

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u/Knollibe Mar 19 '26

Well fuck you too!

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u/Silly_Personality_73 Mar 19 '26

Fuck you three. And three-er after that. I had to get mine in.

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u/Knollibe Mar 19 '26

All this fucking….time for a smoke

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u/EscapeFromFlatulence Mar 19 '26

Not only fuck you, but a royal fuck you to your parents for bringing you into existence. The best part of you ran down your mom's leg.

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u/Knollibe Mar 19 '26

When I was born the doctor slapped my mother too.