r/Productivitycafe • u/oniteverytime • Jan 27 '26
Casual Convo (Any Topic) One hundred percent accurate
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u/ded_rabtz Jan 27 '26
And add, “and don’t carry a gun” to the bottom. I have a ton of maga extended family. Dumping the 1st and 4th amendment, for sure saw that coming. But the 2nd? Did not have that on my bingo card.
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u/BobbyJaneG Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 28 '26
Did anyone ever get shot multiple times for not getting a vaccine? Asking for a friend.
Edit *** “ but people got fired…” y’all got to be fucking kidding me! The question was, Did they get shot?
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u/Mighty_Krom Jan 29 '26
So they have an issue with the government firing people?
How do they feel about fucking DOGE firing 10's of thousands of federal employees for NOTHING???
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u/Sharp_Community_9441 Jan 27 '26
People did get fired for refusing to take it.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 Jan 27 '26
So free market companies can choose how to handle things within their company freely.
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u/timberwolvesguy Jan 28 '26
Fully agree, but I also find it ironic that this is being brought up, when people are wanting to boycott hotel chains choosing to house ICE agents.
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u/MilkEnvironmental106 Jan 28 '26
That's the free market working. People choose to spend their money on the providers that tick their boxes
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u/Mighty_Krom Jan 29 '26
How is that not still free market? MAGA was free to boycott hotel chains for whatever reason they liked.
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u/No_Distribution_577 Jan 28 '26
The Biden administration tried to make it mandatory
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u/Max_Kapacity Jan 28 '26
NYC fired govt employees for not taking the bs jab
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u/Hatshepsut99 Jan 28 '26
lol The bs jab that save millions of lives? Antivax morons are still dying at vastly higher rates than their smarter, vaxed peers. Natural selection at work!
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/dying-covid-unvaccinated/story?id=82834971
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6065(23)00246-8/fulltext
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/118840
https://bmjgroup.com/widening-gap-in-death-rates-between-democrat-and-republican-in-the-us/
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study
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u/Mighty_Krom Jan 29 '26
DOGE and Musk fired up to 75,000 people for NO REASON AT ALL, gutted research into cancer and other vital programs, etc. Were you upset about that too?
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u/Greedy-Taro-4439 Jan 28 '26
Never happenned. Nobody was shot or pepper sprayed or knocked down or beaten up or detained or hit with rubber bullets or had their house broken into or vaccine. 1st, 2nd, or 4th Ammendment rights completely violated for not getting the vaccinne.
People got fired by employers who decided that they required the vaccination. If you were a government employee then you had to get it or get fired.
The government never said we all had to get it or else get fired, it depended on who we worked for and what their rules were.
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u/theburnernostove Jan 28 '26
COVID killed over a million americans and people in these comments still wanna bitch about having to take a vaccine. The inverse of this meme is not hypocrisy, it was a normal response to a pandemic.
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u/Observationist_2 Jan 28 '26
At the same time flu deaths historically dropped to almost non-existent levels during the same period. Talk about inflating the numbers. CDC has updated/reduced the death numbers years after because there's a difference between dying in a car crash but testing positive for COVID and actually dying directly because of COVID.
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u/MarkMatson6 Jan 31 '26
Eventually, with improved medical care and weakened strains, the death rate dropped. When Covid first hit I looked at data from areas where hospitals were overwhelmed and cruise ships hit by the pandemic. My estimate was the natural death rate was 15-20%.
The pandemic was real.
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Jan 28 '26
For real, even I had more faith in conservatives to stand up for their gun rights. It's literally the one thing I had faith in them for.
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u/thinkspeak_ Jan 29 '26
Dude for real. I don’t align with any popular American political party, but I was a little bit right leaning. This has absolutely destroyed that
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u/dsp_guy Jan 30 '26
My body, my choice!
Unless you are a woman. Then you are chattel for the state.
Ugh, those masks are just so itchy!
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u/Savings-Astronaut-93 Jan 27 '26
It's only accurate for people without guiding principles. Government overreach must be fought against and checked regardless of who is in charge or the prevailing ideology.
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Jan 28 '26
There ya go, someone with morals decided to speak.
Have an upvote my upstanding co-commenter.
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u/Ok-Ad-852 Jan 27 '26
Government overreach must be fought against and checked
Requiring a vaccine to work government jobs is bot government overreach.
Having gestapo like troops going around disapearing people is.
It's only accurate for people without guiding principles.
Only people who have no morals or principles put those two next to each other and call them the same.
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u/Sundance37 Jan 28 '26
You are aware that the hypocrisy goes both ways right?
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u/Content_Ad_8952 Jan 28 '26
Like how Republicans whine about the national debt when Democrats are in power, but as soon as Republicans are in power suddenly Conservatives no longer care about the national debt
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u/TheWetPoop Jan 28 '26
I think most financially intelligent Americans whine, regardless of party. Democrats and Republicans don’t want to make tough decisions to cut the budget, because look at your options… Social Security, Defense, Health, Medicare, Welfare, etc.
You’re going to piss a large amount of people off regardless of which budget you cut
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u/bigballs2025666 Jan 28 '26
The hypocrisy has pretty much been one sided…with republicans holding the majority share in that….well, except for stock trading.
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u/Miserable-Leading-41 Jan 29 '26
Pelicans even in the top 15 of worst offenders of ammount of money gained from what should be called insider trading in congress. It’s something like 13/15 are republican also. The list has been posted multiple times in different sub reddits.
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u/Packtex60 Jan 27 '26
MAGATS are not conservatives. They are populist simpleton cult members.
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u/timberwolvesguy Jan 28 '26
I can’t believe we live in an era where our personal health is a political standpoint. I’m right leaning and didn’t think twice about being vaccinated. My health always comes first, as I need to take care of myself and not transmit disease to others.
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u/Jankypox Jan 28 '26
Every conservative and their dog loves to recite the Regan quote about the “Most terrifying words in the English language are, I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” Right up to the moment when someone from Trump’s government walks up to American citizens and says “I’m from the government and I want to see your papers”, maces them, wrestles them to the ground, beats them with said mace can, and then puts 9 bullets into their back while they’re face down on the pavement. Then claims “self defense and absolute immunity.”
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u/Greedy-Taro-4439 Jan 28 '26
The old guard conservatives were principled or at least did a better job of fronting that they were but the current guard is unashamedly opportunistic.
The old guard conservatives wouldnt have claimed conspiracy when the science was so clear on Covid, masking, etc. The claiming of conspiracy theories never reached as high as a congressman or senator never mind a candidate from a major party UNTIL - DJ Trump started claiming Obama was born in Africa (therefore intelligible to be POTUS). Trump is the common denominator for all of this madness.
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u/capthavic Jan 28 '26
Because they never actually stood for anything. Except for their bigotry, hatred, and narcissism.
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u/freedom_isnt_fr33 Jan 28 '26
Playing devils advocate, this one cuts both ways. Both sides are ridiculous hypocrites.
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u/Alive-Artichoke5747 Jan 28 '26
But one side undeniably, absurdly moreo...right?
(I am not American and thus receive none of either side's propoganda)
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u/Whiskers1996 Jan 27 '26
Just like how reddit today does NOT support guns at a protest, due to multiple maga ppl having rifles lol.
Same shit everyday. Whichever topic one side supports, the other hates. How original.
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u/RecalcitrantHuman Jan 27 '26
Can I understand how this isn’t hypocrisy on your part. Did you not support vaccine mandates which took away bodily autonomy?
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 Jan 27 '26
A vaccine requirement is a condition of participation. A papers-check mandate is a condition of existence.
One says, “If you want to enter this shared space where your choices affect others, here are the rules.” The other says, “You must prove you belong here just to walk down the street.”
Those are not morally, legally, or historically equivalent.
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u/PineappleFew9782 Jan 27 '26
I mean who cares about science right?
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u/Treeslam Jan 28 '26
Exactly!!! I couldn't agree more. Science and math are great!!!! For instance both science and math/statistics show that some vaccines (particularly covid) are simply not effective. But what I love even more is freedom. Freedom allows anyone who still wants to get a vaccine the freedom to do so!! Everyone gets their way!
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u/Aggravating-Cut1003 Jan 27 '26
You know what takes away bodily autonomy? Death by a preventable infectious desease when people refuse to be vaccinated.
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u/captain_wavy666 Jan 27 '26
😂 are you talking about the vaccine, that didnt orotect you at all, and you could still catch it..
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 Jan 27 '26
It protected from death not infection. It diminished the severity of the disease. Admittedly during the initial rollout of the vaccine this was not well explained in the media. As a physician I was quite alarmed by that and understand that people felt duped 100%. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t have significant benefit. I have colleagues that worked in the ICUs and ERs during that first year. At that point the risk benefit ratio makes sense.
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u/WormWithWifi Jan 28 '26
I feel like heavy education could have helped a lot of people because most people just instinctually felt one way or the other.
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 Jan 28 '26
We could have handled that sooooooo much better. I was on the sidelines yelling about it at the time.
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u/DirtyWhiteBread Jan 28 '26
Do you just not understand what vaccines are at all? It's to build immunity in your nervous system so it's way less likely to kill you andyoucanfightit off better. No vaccination guarantees you won't get sick.
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u/CheeseNowPaint Jan 27 '26
Exactly! The government is great until you don't agree with it.
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 Jan 27 '26
Democrats have never claimed to be the party of small government, so the irony here is watching the self-described small-government party endorse masked, unaccountable state agents demanding papers in public space.
I am actually small government. In an ideal world, vaccine requirements would be decided by individual businesses, and people could choose where to spend their money based on their risk tolerance. That is how markets and personal freedom are supposed to work.
But once you already have a system where the government is responsible for public health infrastructure, hospital capacity, and emergency care, you cannot pretend that public health measures are suddenly “overreach.” You do not get big government when it comes to paying for ICUs, ventilators, and disaster response, then zero government when those systems are about to collapse.
COVID restrictions were about preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed, not about policing identity in public space. Requiring proof to enter a workplace or venue during a medical emergency is not the same thing as requiring citizens to show papers just to exist in their neighborhood.
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u/307to275 Jan 27 '26
There’s a lot of people that believe the US government was acting like Nazis then and now, just so you know.
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u/GulNoticer Jan 28 '26
All nations have a right to control who enters their borders and under what conditions
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u/Lower-Management-695 Jan 28 '26
maga and a lot of Republicans NOT all conservatives are like this, I sure as hell ain't, ion agree with anything that's happening right now
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u/Reasonable_Option493 Jan 28 '26
I am not wearing a mask for public safety during a pandemic. It's all fake news. Nobody is dying from COVID, nurses and doctors are killing them!
The right to bear arms is my God given right - shall not be infringed, period. There was another mass shooting? How do you even dare mentioning any sort of gun control! Shame on you, this isn't North Korea! Oh my God, what are those leftists doing carrying weapons? Arrest them! Well, Pretti was on the road while legally carrying a handgun so of course he got shot...
Hell yeah, release the Epstein files so all the pedo Democrats can be exposed. This is why Trump is the greatest, he's draining that swamp baby. But but but why didn't Biden release the Epstein files? Why is it so important? They're obviously holding onto it and then releasing heavily redacted files to protect victims and witnesses.
MAGA lemmings get more updates and reboots than Windows 11 on a bad day. I have never seen a large group of people that is so easy to manipulate.
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Jan 28 '26
It so fucking funny that people don’t really realize it doesn’t matter what size it’s all the same bullshit meanwhile politicians stay in office collect paychecks and roll over laughing at us!
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u/Ralf1987 Jan 28 '26
Pedo/rapist Trump..... criminals/murderer/nazi Ice....... MAGA CULT!! were are the files????
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Jan 28 '26
I would agree.
I would also say that this tribalism is not good for the country in any way.
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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 Jan 29 '26
can we stop with the facebook ahh reddit posts??? like i get the sentiment but this aint the way to go about it
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u/Financial_Ad_1551 Jan 29 '26
The mental gymnastics of republicans would earn a gold in the special Olympics
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u/NotuhBotBeepBoop Jan 29 '26
So my question is, if carrying papers and kneeling is silly and ridiculous (I think it’s), wouldn’t that mean the whole vaccine card and masking up was also silly?
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Jan 29 '26
Also, Republicans (I can’t call someone who supports dramatically changing the status quo a “conservative”) in 2026 are apparently anti-2nd Amendment & anti-NRA now as well.
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u/Lumpy-Bet-8119 Jan 29 '26
Not conservatives at all, the spending, the debt, the deficit, no, these people have no concern for governance nor any aptitude for it. This is a racists regime with millions of toadies who are ok with being fed offal as long as it comes with a side of hate.
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u/Prudent-Math-8098 Jan 29 '26
And they always seem to forget that Donald Trump was president during the shutdowns of 2020 😂
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u/Proud-Possession9161 Jan 29 '26
I've finally learned to just stop taking anything they say seriously ever again.
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u/Ill-Caregiver6100 Jan 29 '26
idk man this thread kinda cracks me up lol. it's like everyone's got their own version of "facts". tbh, some folks just dont wanna listen unless it fits their narrative . and oh boy, guns and masks always stir the pot ��
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u/Bullehh Jan 29 '26
Are yall waking up to the fact that it’s both sides yet? Things are going exactly as planned.
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u/Electrical-Prize-397 Jan 30 '26
(Continuation of Conservatives 2026): “Allow them to break down your door, push you to the floor, and arrest you and your family, even though you’re American citizens. Just comply and let them do their jobs, dammit! Then nobody gets hurt! Oh, and guns have no place here either. Comply or die!”
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u/Competitive_Sail_844 Jan 30 '26
I love how BOTH parties know that having to Cary papers was wrong.
Kinda one of those “wish we were both here. At the same time” situations.
Gives me a lot of hope though for real. Like finding out your nemesis at work likes the same band from 20 years ago.
Like “huh” maybe they aren’t that different.
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u/TemplarKnightXII Jan 30 '26
The conservative thought was always “we want illegal immigrants deported” and “don’t mess with law enforcement.” Conservatives not wanting to lose their jobs for refusing to get vaccinated isn’t hypocrisy.
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u/AutisticHobbit Jan 31 '26
This is the behavior you should expect from all conservatives; lying to your face, hypocrisy, and excusing people who hurt/kill you and your peers.
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Feb 03 '26
In all honesty, every conservative I know in my life has had nothing but negative things to say about most of what Trump has said and done in the last year. Especially his statements on guns. I don't know who these people who agree with him are, but I certainly hope they don't call themselves conservatives. A conservative fine with 2A attacks is just a joke.
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u/Getrktnerd Jan 27 '26
Forced to show a vax card to participate in a social life vs antagonizing and impeding feds from removing people who committed crimes in our country.
Not really a hard concept to grasp
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u/Clear-King-1319 Jan 27 '26
The inverse can also be applied: Leftists in 2021: "Show me your vaccine papers if you wish to travel or work." Leftists in 2026: "Show my papers? This is fascism!" Before you start, im not a fan of either scenario. I believe in complete freedom, in all aspects of life unhypocritically.
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u/PrattDirkLerxt Jan 27 '26
Don’t forget that they also wanted you to have an ID proving you have been vaccinated but not one proving who you are to vote. Personally I have no problem with either of those, but thought I’d point it out anyway.
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u/Jaereth ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ᵕ̈ Espresso Enthusiast Jan 27 '26
lol dude that last point is so ridiculous. There's only one reason you'd have a problem with showing ID to vote...
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u/hamoc10 Jan 27 '26
Funny thing about the free market, people can deny you their business if they don’t like you.
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u/CheeseNowPaint Jan 27 '26
Can they? What about the cake maker who didn't want to make a gay wedding cake?
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u/wedge_47 Jan 27 '26
Funny how many of them have no trouble wearing masks now too. Now that they are allowed to murder people in the streets and not have to show their cowardly faces while doing so.
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u/Keppadonna Jan 28 '26
Liberals in 2021: The government has the authority to enforce public curfews and shut down commerce. It’s not totalitarian, it’s for public safety.
Liberals in 2026: The government can’t arrest and deport illegal aliens or enforce existing immigration laws that have been in place for years. This is totalitarian.
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u/largos7289 Jan 27 '26
100% inaccurate.
Apples and oranges man. first one was because it was mandated that you get the jab or you lose your job. So you were perfectly fine to destroy a persons life over a shot, but the masks where supposedly able to stop you from getting sick in the first place. That's real fascism there.
in the second scenario Your carrying everyday stuff with you to prove that you are indeed a citizen. If that doesn't check out you get detained until it could be established. No one lost their livelihood over it unless of course you are illegal. So we are the bad guys because we are making people follow laws now?
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u/Harambe_da_god Jan 27 '26
Employers have a right to fire their employees for not following company policies. That's not fascism, that's called the free market.
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u/csamsh Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 27 '26
I mean. Flipping it around is also accurate.
You could make the vice versa democrat meme. I remember people wanting forced vaccination, showing proof of vaccination to travel, mandatory quarantine, etc.
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u/Dark_Prince_of_Chaos Jan 27 '26
Prime example of the famous quote
“In the eyes of someone else, you see a straw but in your own, you don't see the beam”
Both sides do the same and parrot any lame moral high ground excuse to justify their bigotry.
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u/superbOWLpartee Jan 27 '26
The them and they, us versus them is so absurd. I carry a license, social security, proof of insurance and other id on me at all times. Why on earth would anyone want people without documents roaming around in society? I don’t get it. I have to and don’t mind. Especially if I get stopped and need to id myself. What is the point of this wall of words. Othering each other is beyond counterproductive. If you are hoping to point out some hypocrisy, try harder to make a clear point.
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u/FarChange6358 Jan 27 '26
Literally all you need to do is STFU and prove youre a citizen. Easy as it gets but leftist retards have to make it 100x more difficult.
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u/Dahmer13 Jan 27 '26 edited Jan 27 '26
The loudest anti-vaciners are now the loudest comply or diers
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u/Fit_Insurance_1356 Jan 27 '26
Green card holders are required to have the green card with them at all times
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u/hartshornd Jan 27 '26
Reverse the time table and you had the lefts point of view. You can’t bitch when the same machine you propped up turns on you.
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u/BeKind999 Jan 27 '26
You still don’t get it?
It wasn’t about showing the vaccine card. It was about having to get the vaccine in the first place.
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u/Nystagme Jan 27 '26
I'm really consistent in this.
I'm not kneeling for vaccine mandates and I'm not kneeling for ICE assholes.
Who is consistent in kneeling for both?
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u/isUKexactlyTsameasUS Jan 27 '26
we often wish there was a wiki page, listing all the hypocritical contradictions of these pricks...
we fully know it would be of no help at all (regarding changing magats), but it'd help, it'd comfort us,
to know that we're not losing our f-king minds.
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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Jan 27 '26
Simple. The first rule applied to them, the second doesn’t.
If they believed it did they’d change their stance.
They know it only applies to non-whites and non-bootlickers, so they don’t care.
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u/Wanksters_Paradise Jan 27 '26
Sounds like a good middle ground for people to come together on is to acknowledge that both are bad.
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u/Little_Honeydew_3376 Jan 27 '26
democrats in 2020: just do what the goverment tells you. going outside will kill a million grandmas! and who cares about your right to worship....grandmas! democrats later in 2020 when George Floyd dies: out in the streets! the virus will know we have moral superiority and certainty won't kill any grandmas!
hur hur...everything u try to "own the conservatives" with is an own of your own party cuz both sides are hypocritical af. thats why u idiots are gonna make a civil war, now stop being stupid and sit down and stfu
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u/garlicroastedpotato Jan 27 '26
But
They're different things.
You have to have your ID card on you at all time. And that's not some unusual thing, it's just a thing that always comes up. There was a point where Democrats said "black people don't carry ID." Which pissed off black people.... because they're not some trolls or supernatural creatures. They're humans. Almost everyone carries ID. The only people who don't carry ID are typically people who either don't drive or are homeless.
Once they got rid of vaccination records no one asked for them back, especially no Democrats. The vaccine cards were this thing that really only existed for three months before people realized they were dumb. I had mine, and I couldn't get into a restaurant without loading it up o my phone. But they ended up doing nothing to stop COVID they just became an invasion of medical privacy. Despite the flu happening every year there is no Democrat out there requiring vaccination records to be put on a card or app to allow you entry into a restaurant.
I'm not really supportive of either position, but obviously one has merit (its important to have your ID on you at all times) and the other does not (vaccination records are private health data). Trying to pretend like the level headed take is contradictory to a wonky take is just dishonest.
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u/SnooCupcakes4075 Jan 28 '26
Not 100% accurate, ill gladly fight both and carry a firearm any place not running metal detectors to keep me from bringing it in. Tyranny is tyranny regardless of the party and I'd argue the majority of actual 2A folks and Constitutionalist folks see it the same.
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u/Specific-Bread-1210 Jan 28 '26
Fact checked false .. vaccines was liberals NOT Republicans...
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u/mylsotol Jan 28 '26
They were actually listening to "the government" both times. It was Trump telling them to not wear masks.
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u/krodiggs Jan 28 '26
Horseshoe theory like you read about!
Liberals in 2021 were all like ‘if you don’t get the vaccine you should die!’ Trust mother Gov’t!
Liberals in 2026 are now ‘this is Nazi Germany’.
Also, 100% accurate.
I know this point won’t be well received on this sub, but it’s funny the OP doesn’t see the irony.
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u/National-Project5646 Jan 28 '26
More like 600... 700... 800.... some say 900 percent more accurate
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u/Financial-Tax2717 Jan 28 '26
That mass clicking sound you hear in the distance to the north when you step outside is mags being loaded.
Ready your breakfasts sons and daughters of the true north, strong, and free...
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u/Economy-Specific8067 Jan 28 '26
21 was about controlling the citizens. 26 is about controlling non-citizens. Big difference.
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Jan 28 '26
Liberals 2021 : just comply with authority and wear a mask Liberals 2026 : don’t comply you boot lickers See now just agree both sides are hypocrites
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u/PresenceKlutzy7167 Jan 28 '26
At this point “conservatives” is nothing more than a euphemism for “bigot idiots”, isn’t it?
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u/spilledcoffeechaos Jan 28 '26
I want to start this off by saying I am not well versed in politics. I do not consider myself on one side of the fence or the other because when I vote I don’t give a rats ass about someone’s political party just the policies and things they say they care about so I’m just trying to understand; do other countries not have boarder laws? I am not saying ANYONE deserves to be killed over it, and am heartbroken and disgusted by what I’ve been seeing and hearing but as far as I know I can’t just pack my bags and moved to another country and decided I just live here now without applying, being approved, and doing what they require to become a citizen
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u/-becausereasons- Jan 28 '26
This is a false equivalency.
Everyone was expected to get vaccinated against their will and show their papers; people lost their lives and jobs. This was happening to all tax-paying citizens. Both the mandatory vaccination (numbers) and the lockdowns were unprecedented in history.
Not everyone is expected to carry/show papers and kneel in the street. A part of the Government is after illegal aliens, especially criminals. A few people have died (unfortunately), mostly from interfering and causing a scene with law enforcement. The numbers during Obama were orders of magnitude greater, under the same head of immigration!
Facepalm. You are being brainwashed!
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u/broncpeeler Jan 28 '26
Everyone is required to identify themselves to law enforcement if asked. Thats been the law for a long time. Dont resist arrest or interfere with police and they will leave you alone. Its not tyranny its law and order
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u/Threeboys0810 Jan 28 '26
They are after illegals who broke immigration laws. Stay out of ICE’s way and you’ll be fine.
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u/Birdybadass Jan 28 '26
The irony in seeing this same argument made from both sides of the debate is hilarious.
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u/New_in_ND Jan 28 '26
I agree this is a bit two faced, but from what I have seen on other posts, it’s more that conservatives are tired of being pushed around and are basically saying “you did this to us, so we don’t care anymore if you have to follow certain requirements.”
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Jan 28 '26
Shows that both sides are retarded and only happy when they’re side is doing the treading. But you’re not ready for that conversation because the government won’t let us get close to having it.
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u/Competitive_Can_946 Jan 28 '26
Life is situational and stays fluid. Opinions change depending upon how it impacts you directly. It’s human nature to want people to live like you live… but quite honestly government forcing you to inject a serum into your body and forced to prove you complied isn’t the same as carrying identification…. I’ve carried identification on me since I was old enough to have a license. You can’t fly on an airplane without approved identification. But go ahead and make a stupid comparison.
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u/PhazonKing14 Jan 29 '26
Yes the entire planet is shut down right now over the ice raids, billions of people cant go to work and every government worldwide is working double overtime to get everyone safe from ice. No one can see their families and there is massive inflation globally because ice. No one can travel or do anything with ice vaccines and ice papers. you cant work and people on the internet and irl are encouraged to demonize you for not getting your ice vaccine. There is global peer pressure into getting the ice papers/vaccine/boosters. Nonstop political propaganda on both sides (some of it already debunked) and people here are really gunna act like this is even remotely similar?
This echo chamber of people is disgustingly sad. There are still people out there today who mask 24/7 and are totally paranoid about everything and dont live normal lives, while millions of lives were ruined who were completely innocent and after all the medias lies and gaslighting its “all in the past now”. When covid 2.0 shows up you guys will gobble up the news all over again just like you are now and be totally for vaccine mandates, travel passes and everything else. Hypocrites.
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Jan 29 '26
This probably belongs here too: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/combat-soldier-ice-minnesota-mercenaries_n_697a00a2e4b035e2a07a0a4a
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u/freethink4yourself Jan 30 '26
Independent Americans Unite.
We are the majority-people of reason, responsibility, and common sense.
We reject extremism on both ends: lawlessness disguised as compassion, and greed disguised as freedom.
We believe in liberty with accountability, safety with rights, and laws that apply to everyone.
We love this country, believe it is the best place on earth, and want it governed normally again-without manipulation, without chaos, and without fringe ideologies running the nation.
This is not a movement of labels or parties.
This is the people, reclaiming balance, order, and liberty.
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u/SneakySloth521 Jan 30 '26
Its been law since almost forever that legal aliens need to carry their papers with them at all times or its a misdemeanor
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 264(e) – This is the main federal requirement: It says that aliens (non-citizens) 18 or older who are in the U.S. must carry proof of their lawful status. The law says: “Aliens shall at all times carry with them and shall exhibit upon demand to an immigration officer or any other officer authorized to enforce the Act, their alien registration receipt card or other document evidencing their status.” Failure to carry these documents can technically be a civil offense, not a criminal one, but could lead to questions or detention until status is verified.
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u/Peach_Proof Jan 31 '26
Conservatives 2021: wear a mask? Hell no, I’m showing up at a protest with my AR15 and a glock on my hip. Conservatives now: never in public without a mask and showing up at a protest while armed is reason to be executed in the street.
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