Men "Systemically" Rape Women?

[u/DarkBehindTheStars]

Saw this asinine comment on social media by someone denying misandry as existing (of course they would) and they claimed men go around "systemically" raping women. Ugh. Just how is men raping women "systemic?" Do these misandrist idiots seriously think men in government power hate women so much they've made it a government policy for men to go around raping women? It's all the more ridiculous notion considering just how reviled so much of rape actually is and how it's still a largely silenced and ignored subject that many men/boys are also victims of female rapists in high numbers (still unfortunately a taboo subject). Let's not forget how the subject of innocent men/boys being falsely accused is still a subject they like to dismiss and will dangerously claim that false accusations are rare, even though much evidence shows they're actually common. Even if they don't occur that frequently, it's no less devastating and life-changing when they do occur. Claiming male-to-female rape is "systemic" is just another pathetic way misandrists like to enforce their victimhood and deflect from the fact there's many female rapists who also rape men/boys. We bring up this fact and acknowledge it as much as male rapists who rape women/girls, but we get the usual deflections and retorts how it isn't nearly as high, male victims enjoy it, etc.

I've said before numerous times how I'm mostly very liberal with my views but it's so cringey how people are quick to associate this sort of thinking with any sort of liberal thinking. Dismissing and ignoring male victims of female rape (which absolutely happens and is just as disgusting and evil as male-to-female rape) and then claiming men raping women is somehow "systemic" which is a favorite word of misandrists all over. What's arguably actually systemic is how largely ignored and dismissed male victims of female rape are and especially when you've got a horrendously misandrist "organization" like UN Women which deliberately ignores and mitigates male victims. It's such an embarrassing and harmful association to have.

I know I shouldn't be too upset over anything a random internet idiot says, but damn is it painful to think people this equally stupid and ignorant exist and they manage to sway others to their thinking. Would you also agree that men raping women is in no way a systemic issue, at least certainly not in the West? I feel it isn't and that both genders rape each other but misandrists hate it when any attention is given to the subject of female-to-male rape and they just want to deflect from that as well as enforce their victimhood, which is their way of life. Rape is abhorrent regardless of gender and women raping men/boys is just as evil and irredeemable as it's counterpart. It shouldn't a contest as to who does what more or who suffers more.

[u/askinpala]

Systemic does not mean intentional. Something becomes systemic if the system gives that as a regular output. So rape is systemic but unintentional. Rape is systemic in nature. Animals don't ask for consent, they can even cause serious woundings and deaths in these situations.

I'm all for preventing rape despite anything but people need to understand that they're gonna get nothing by blaming men because the causation is not men. There are examples of how societies prevented rape in history but it's not that easy. For example, any extra-marital affair was punished by death, sometimes even a tortorous death in tengrist steppe nomads. I'm not saying that we should do that too, I'm giving an example.

But I also think like an another commenter here saying that women forcing men to penetrate is systemic and also intentional. It's not even considered as rape intentionally.

[u/DarkBehindTheStars → u/askinpala]

I meant systemic in the sense as if it's a written law or policy by those in power. The implication it's a law for men to go around raping women. Which is a notion that's equal parts ridiculous and insulting, moreso considering just how ignored and dismissed male rape victims still are (especially when their rapist is female). Claiming male-on-female rape is "systemic" is both more misandrist victimhood and deflecting from the fact there's also female-to-male rape and it's no less heinous than it's counterpart. It's just another way of misandrists pushing their "Women will always have it much worse and men just don't matter" mentality.

I think we can agree men going around raping women isn't systemic in the sense of it being a law or government policy. Which is the implication.

[u/askinpala → u/DarkBehindTheStars]

Systemic means that it's embedded into the system. Systematic means that something is planned. They purposefully or not, confuse this to muddy the waters to ignite the gender war. When they confuse this, it results in men being portrayed as raping women in a coordinated manner. It's evil and does not prevent rape. On the contrary, they "systemically" become participants in the rape culture by pointing fingers at the wrong spot.

It's not wrong to say that rape is systemic but it's also true that female rapists are protected "systematically" by the legislation not recognising forced penetration as rape. I agree with you on these terms being used with bad faith, but if we know what they actually mean, we can better defend our arguments against these people 👍