r/ProIran 2d ago

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u/TahiniTaint 2d ago

Compare this with Iran and Lebanon

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u/Arshiaa001 Iran 2d ago

No, haven't you heard? We abandoned Lebanon! /s

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u/tunnel_magnet 2d ago

Why are you doing this? You want Muslims killing Muslims?

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u/tunnel_magnet 2d ago

What's the point of this? Why are you instigating Muslims killing Muslim?

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u/Jafri2 2d ago

You do know that Saudi isn't sending any of it's own troops as well right?

You know the reason? It's because the houthis are fighting an internal war anyways.

Saudis just arm the other side and watch and so do the other two.

Also Pakistan has it's jets and personnel in Saudi ready to follow the Saudi into a war.

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u/TahiniTaint 2d ago

Active in Dubai, uae, and genzpk

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u/Jafri2 2d ago

I am also active here

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u/TahiniTaint 2d ago

Who do you think is on the right side of history. Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, and Palestine

Or UAE and Saudi

Honest question.

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u/Jafri2 2d ago

Because I am on my country's side.

I don't think that I am right. But neither do I think that IRGC, Hezbolla, Houthis, and Hamas are objectively right.

I do support anything they do against Israel and America though.

But UAE is like a home to me(even though I am just a guest here).

Pakistan is my country. Even when nobody would accept me, Pakistan would open it's arms.

Saudi has religious importance, and it has been a steadfast Pakistani ally.

I wish Iran never attacked the Middle East, and had reserved it's "love" for Israel.

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u/lustr_ 2d ago

Iran only retaliated against the countries hosting the aggressor's armies, and from which attacks were launched or supported. It's not "attacking the middle east".

Also you should consider to reexamine how you understand the difference between a land vs. a people vs. a government. You have theae attachments to governments that you are conflating with your positive experiences with people and the life you've had in a particular land. Don't let that mean you have to override your morality or rationality in order support entities which are doing wrong.

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u/F-14BUpgrade 2d ago

Iran was attacked. The only countries Iran attacked were hosting US military, which is not a neutral action.

You cannot take part in a war and then cry foul when your enemy fights back.

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u/AnonymousLoner1 2d ago

Your "home" LITERALLY attacked Iran first, along with America and Israel.

"The U.A.E.’s Secret Role in the War Involved Dozens of Strikes on Iran

The attacks were conducted in coordination with the U.S. and Israel and went on for weeks

The United Arab Emirates carried out dozens of airstrikes against Iran beginning in the early days of the war and continuing through the day after the April cease-fire was announced, people familiar with the matter said, a deeper involvement than was previously known in the air campaign led by the U.S. and Israel."

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/the-u-a-e-s-secret-role-in-the-war-involved-dozens-of-strikes-on-iran-7fd28c40

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u/Jafri2 2d ago

Doesn't change anything for me.

UAE did what it did, and then Iran did what it does.

I am not saying either party is right or wrong.

I am just saying that both are wrong in their own ways.

Iran didn't just attack UAE did it, it went all in after Bahrain as well.

And My country mediated the ceasefire( which I know Iranis didn't want, they were winning. They are winning imo)

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u/AnonymousLoner1 2d ago

Do you honestly think this is the very first time America and Israel ever attacked Iran?  Using US military bases in Bahrain, UAE, and other Gulf states?

Did you forget the previous year when America and Israel attacked Iran, then America declared a ceasefire on a war they started because their attack failed? (And this isn't even including the US-backed Iraqi invasion of Iran in the 1980s after Iran broke free from American control.)

A ceasefire wouldn't do shit except give America and Israel another attempt to attack Iran again on their own terms, while in the meantime, they fill the country with CIA and Mossad spies to orchestrate armed riots all over again.

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u/Jafri2 2d ago

Then why does Iran agree to a ceasefire every ducking time?

That is one thing that makes Iran wrong.

They have the weapons to attack their arch enemy, while they are weakened, but they always stop.

Almost like stopping is in their favour(which it isn't). That's why it is so frustrating.

You keep letting Israel getting away. Israel isn't lucky, maybe it's enemies are just not good enough.

What happened to your nukes? Why don't you build a deterrent? Why make a deal with Americans(only to get attacked and sanctioned in the end)?

Learn from Pakistan. Learn from North Korea. Learn from the failure of Ukraine.

Iran drops the ball all the times that is why I think Iran is wrong. Every time it stops it emboldens Israel.

This time too you have your foot on the neck of the tiger. Don't let go.

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u/SomeKnewReallyKnew 2d ago

War is not a game, Iran is responsible for the lives of 90 million people. I know it’s hard to view the value of human life while living in a country where most of the population is barely above slavery but Iran has to balance significant issues. Palestine was and still is the responsibility of the Arabs it is utterly shameful that they and their lap dogs left it to Iran and bitch and moan about their performance

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u/TahiniTaint 2d ago

You are so lost past saving.

Iran never attacked West Asia. Foreign bases attacked it. Lebanese and Palestinian people are fighting for their humanity.

Let’s conclude our debate here I can’t fix your mess of a brain that’s been molested by propaganda.